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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNobody is struggling. Just trying to figure out why it’s been so disappointing from a quality standpoint. Hopefully some good suggestions float to the top.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post$4000? Why is it four grand when boys are free? That ain’t gonna help get better players with higher cost. You probably get less quality players than if it was free. Can’t Timbers afford to pay for it all?
Who do you think pays for it all if it ends up being free?
If it is a good product they will get players.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy would they give up national team to have fun and play in front of their peers? Soccer is not supposed to be fun. Get that through your thick skull.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThanks for this history that tells the real story. We agree on something, “being up front”. Playing other sports (not prohibited but nearly impossible as DA comes first) or HS soccer on some bogus waiver is hypocritical and I am not for it. I am supporting my opinion here and in other places and “yes” the DA may just listen to the collective voices out there or not, but especially when they start getting louder from folks like the coach of the N.C. Courage in the article link I posted recently on this discussion board. We will disagree though on a couple points. You state an elite player would not want to play HS Soccer and while I personally agree with this rule for many reasons, many players and parents do not and as a result we see the GDA league with only the very best players. So facts are not on your opinion’s side but they are evidenced in actual facts. This is a real challenge for the GDA because enough folks are not assimilating to the philosophy of this rule and for the betterment of the league to include all the top players, it must be addressed or dilution will reign. Additionally, I fundamentally am opposed to lack of diverse experiences and athletic opportunities in the formative years of 12-17. Even boys in academies in Europe play basketball at night!! The brain and the body benefit from cross training. US Soccer would be wise to figure out how to prioritize some time for this within the structure of “DA comes first” rules. Soo much evidence in support of this.
Some may have a feeling or opinion about HS sports. But when push comes to shove the facts show the nation's elite youth choose Nat teams and DA over HS.
It's documented and no matter your opinion or feeling they haven't walked away from the DA & Nat team to play full time HS instead.
The facts you would need to supply to support your opinion would be the names of National Team girls who left the program to play HS Full time.
Club & Country!
If you can supply this list, you have made your case. All the best
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNone of the GDA Thorns players have a chance of ever playing with the National Team. That's a joke. Talk about a think skull!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThis discussion is solely focused on the Nation's top 100 youth players the 'elite' no facts support they want to give up playing on youth national teams or DA so they can be full time HS players for 8 to 10 weeks a year.
Some may have a feeling or opinion about HS sports. But when push comes to shove the facts show the nation's elite youth choose Nat teams and DA over HS.
It's documented and no matter your opinion or feeling they haven't walked away from the DA & Nat team to play full time HS instead.
The facts you would need to supply to support your opinion would be the names of National Team girls who left the program to play HS Full time.
Club & Country!
If you can supply this list, you have made your case. All the best
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNice try. Until these 100 (.1%) players you speak of play in a league all by themselves, they need competitive teams regionally to play with and against. Maybe not every player or likely other players on their team or area are being invited to National Team camps, but this group of players is not on an island as your comments seem to suggest, and they need a league that commands the top 19.9% of players to want to all play in too. That is not the case now, there is dilution of the top of talent across different leagues. Even if the top 100 girls are ALL playing DA with no feasible commitment to any other activity be that HS Soccer or anything else in their lives, who they play soccer with and against in the GDA (or any league ECNL, USYS) regularly matters for their development. To be a top league you must provide opportunities to develop the best and unless US Soccer starts building an academy residential school for the top 100 to just play each other, you need league rules that avoid dilution of the top 20% of players going to different leagues.
US Soccer has the top 100 players in each age and gender identified it's what their scouts do do full time. Having these specials all in the DA is incredible and they (US Soccer) wouldn't want it any other way.
The other kids who play USYS or US Club and are not part of the DA, specifically the kids who live outside of DA clubs are identified by US Soccer as well. It's worth noting just because their home state can't earn a DA club, it's not held against them. They still have a chance.
The DA is the vehicle that carries all of our nation's most elite youth phenoms, it's been producing college soccer's finest players, USYNT members and MLS american Pros like clockwork for the better part of the last 10 years with the boys. Now the girls are now allowed in the elite car and right away USYNT feature only the Girls DA products and top colleges are chasing the DA girls players in hopes of landing the best of the best.
Whether you agree with this infrastructure and operational system of identification of our nation's elite youth. Since it may be matter dear to your pocketbook and heart it means nothing to those in charge running the show.
Fly away and enjoy your special time.
Let the others do their thing, nobody is bothered.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostNobody is struggling. Just trying to figure out why it’s been so disappointing from a quality standpoint. Hopefully some good suggestions float to the top.
I don't know what the thorns can do to bring out better players. Maybe just be happy with what they got?
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