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    Not everyone can speak in Nuclear physics but it has gotten out of hand in getting admitted to top universities in Florida. Taking to some junior soccer players and they are taking college classes over the summer to have a 4.4, getting ready to take SAT again, getting volunteering hours so they can apply in the fall. They can’t even have a summer off.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Not everyone can speak in Nuclear physics but it has gotten out of hand in getting admitted to top universities in Florida. Taking to some junior soccer players and they are taking college classes over the summer to have a 4.4, getting ready to take SAT again, getting volunteering hours so they can apply in the fall. They can’t even have a summer off.
      It's that way for any true top university. Many of us who attended great schools would never get admitted today. It's a different world.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It's that way for any true top university. Many of us who attended great schools would never get admitted today. It's a different world.
        Sure we would have. We would have had been able to take more dual enrollment and AP classes in high school. They were offered in high schools back in the day but it is the norm today. We used to have a few months off in the summer to work and have fun. Back in the day the top students in FL were applying to all of them UF, FSU, UCF and USF, but today these colleges are actively trying to recruit the out of state students who are worth more money. The population has increased too. Our kids public high school has about 600 in the senior class. Knowing the same top ten kids will get the offers to the same big FL drives the others to have to take more AP and compete. Crazy game!

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          The competitive travel soccer player must be careful because that time spent practicing and traveling for club and high school can cause a grade to drop. A couple B’s and they won’t be hitting the 4.0 and getting into UF or any of the FL big 4. Also if taking Dual Enrollment classes they are through the college and won’t excuse work or tests missed for soccer.

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            The reality is the majority of kids will not be playing soccer at UF or any of the Big Florida four or getting admitted to one on scholarship. Save the travel soccer and alumni payments and invest the money early on to pay for the future college education.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The reality is the majority of kids will not be playing soccer at UF or any of the Big Florida four or getting admitted to one on scholarship. Save the travel soccer and alumni payments and invest the money early on to pay for the future college education.
              Or go somewhere else. Lots of great schools out there north of the state line

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Or go somewhere else. Lots of great schools out there north of the state line
                Save up for out-of-state tuition.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Save up for out-of-state tuition.
                  Lots of middle to upper income families in club soccer who can afford to pay at least a decent chunk of cash for college. Also, if your grades are better than average and you're a player you'll get a decent package (less so with boys on the athletic piece). If your heart is set on D1 there's many other programs out there. There are many fantastic D3 schools as well with great academics and decent enough soccer.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Lots of middle to upper income families in club soccer who can afford to pay at least a decent chunk of cash for college. Also, if your grades are better than average and you're a player you'll get a decent package (less so with boys on the athletic piece). If your heart is set on D1 there's many other programs out there. There are many fantastic D3 schools as well with great academics and decent enough soccer.
                    If not playing soccer for the college, admissions could care less if a student played 40 hours of travel club and school soccer for most of his life. Admissions type are already bending the gates to get athletes in below the required mean scores and they aren't too keen on readying any more football or soccer essays. Two friends have very smart sons who were top of their class 4.4 magna cum laude , solid test scores, took college prep classes, one quarterback and one line backer. UF wouldn't admit them and they are in line to be walk ons at GA and UCF.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      If not playing soccer for the college, admissions could care less if a student played 40 hours of travel club and school soccer for most of his life. Admissions type are already bending the gates to get athletes in below the required mean scores and they aren't too keen on readying any more football or soccer essays. Two friends have very smart sons who were top of their class 4.4 magna cum laude , solid test scores, took college prep classes, one quarterback and one line backer. UF wouldn't admit them and they are in line to be walk ons at GA and UCF.
                      They are selling themselves short on academics. They're not so smart.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        They are selling themselves short on academics. They're not so smart.
                        These athletes who work very hard in their high school sport, club sports and academics who can't score both the 4.4 GPA and 1400/30 test are not even considered by admissions. GPA and Test scores are weighted about 99% and don't fall for the UF holistic admissions garbage. The student who sits at home studying all night and taking test prep courses will get in 99% of the time on numbers alone over an athlete who might miss a GPA and TEST number by a point but knock his athletic resume out of the park.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          These athletes who work very hard in their high school sport, club sports and academics who can't score both the 4.4 GPA and 1400/30 test are not even considered by admissions. GPA and Test scores are weighted about 99% and don't fall for the UF holistic admissions garbage. The student who sits at home studying all night and taking test prep courses will get in 99% of the time on numbers alone over an athlete who might miss a GPA and TEST number by a point but knock his athletic resume out of the park.
                          Sorry, know a soccer player with very average grades who was admitted. connections To say all athletes are near the mean is wrong. Some are not even close. Truth

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Sorry, know a soccer player with very average grades who was admitted. connections To say all athletes are near the mean is wrong. Some are not even close. Truth
                            An athlete who can play D1 UF sports will have leeway in not hitting the mean numbers.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Sorry, know a soccer player with very average grades who was admitted. connections To say all athletes are near the mean is wrong. Some are not even close. Truth
                              Varies a great deal depending on

                              - how badly the coach wants the player and supports them
                              - what kind of relationship the coach has with the admissions office
                              - how far off the mean the student is. a little isn't as much an issue with D1 (it definitely can be with D3) and the further away the less the odds no matter how badly a coach wants you
                              - the school. some just wont' budge beyond a certain degree for anyone.
                              - the sport. power football and basketball? allowances galore. non revenue sports? not so much

                              another thing to consider: an average student at a top school will most likely struggle academically. coaches don't want that. nor should families. it's ok to stretch yourself but you don't want to be struggling, especially as an athlete with a nearly full time job

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Varies a great deal depending on

                                - how badly the coach wants the player and supports them
                                - what kind of relationship the coach has with the admissions office
                                - how far off the mean the student is. a little isn't as much an issue with D1 (it definitely can be with D3) and the further away the less the odds no matter how badly a coach wants you
                                - the school. some just wont' budge beyond a certain degree for anyone.
                                - the sport. power football and basketball? allowances galore. non revenue sports? not so much

                                another thing to consider: an average student at a top school will most likely struggle academically. coaches don't want that. nor should families. it's ok to stretch yourself but you don't want to be struggling, especially as an athlete with a nearly full time job
                                Good point. It would be tough to be successful being in an environment where everyone comes into college with about enough credits to be a sophomore with a 4.6/1450, but athletes will have tutors to help survive on the road.

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