Where are they going to college?

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In some cases you 100 pct can look at u-12 and see a scholarship. Its that obvious. The rest of your post is sadly the fractional minority. The College demand for players is far greater then the number of kids doing what you imply.

It's never that obvious at U12. You can look at 100 cant-miss kids and be wrong on 75 of them. It's only obvious when they are 19 and got the nod and you look back. Looking forward, plenty cant-misses, miss.

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It's never that obvious at U12. You can look at 100 cant-miss kids and be wrong on 75 of them. It's only obvious when they are 19 and got the nod and you look back. Looking forward, plenty cant-misses, miss.

A U12 spot is pretty rare. By HS, especially with girls, the separation becomes more clear. That said, there are also kids who reach maturity even later. How many U12 parents have dreamed of a D1 scholarship only to have their now 16 year old rarely starting on their HS squad, or maybe not even playing at all? Countless.

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It's never that obvious at U12. You can look at 100 cant-miss kids and be wrong on 75 of them. It's only obvious when they are 19 and got the nod and you look back. Looking forward, plenty cant-misses, miss.

Completely agree with this. Have now seen most u12 stars fade and now they are among the weakest in the (high school age) team. I actually can't figure it out. Do they just stop developing, and the rest of the team passes them? Do they actually get worse? Whatever, I agree that you cannot pick out who will go very far at u12, certainly among the boys.

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It's never that obvious at U12. You can look at 100 cant-miss kids and be wrong on 75 of them. It's only obvious when they are 19 and got the nod and you look back. Looking forward, plenty cant-misses, miss.

If you are wrong 75%of the time- you have no idea what you are looking at

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Completely agree with this. Have now seen most u12 stars fade and now they are among the weakest in the (high school age) team. I actually can't figure it out. Do they just stop developing, and the rest of the team passes them? Do they actually get worse? Whatever, I agree that you cannot pick out who will go very far at u12, certainly among the boys.

Not the op - I've observed it as well. Boys I think is especially tough to predict because they grow at a later age and they can keep growing well into HS, even college sometimes. It's also tough if you're a late blooming boy going up against much larger peers. You may not be presented the same opportunities (because sadly many coaches prefer size of skill or even speed), might even drop out because of it. The pre puberty-post puberty size differences aren't as profound with girls and their development timeline is much more condensed. At 12 girls are coming into their own. Most 12 year old boys are more like giraffes on ice. Then there's things like the draw of other sports, losing interest in general, lack of drive to improve. There's also speculation that some early bloomers/bigger kids rely more on their physical attributes instead of skill, then get passed when other kids catch up. There may be some real truth to that.

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Completely agree with this. Have now seen most u12 stars fade and now they are among the weakest in the (high school age) team. I actually can't figure it out. Do they just stop developing, and the rest of the team passes them? Do they actually get worse? Whatever, I agree that you cannot pick out who will go very far at u12, certainly among the boys.

Another guy who is clueless
Being big or fast is what you are looking at- that aint it
Thats why you cant figure it out

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Another guy who is clueless
Being big or fast is what you are looking at- that aint it
Thats why you cant figure it out

Neither can most US coaches

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Neither can most US coaches

Really?
Do you know any quality soccer player that wanted to play in college that didnt have the opportunity?
No you dont-good players get offers- they have choices
Bad players dont
Same with good students

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Really?
Do you know any quality soccer player that wanted to play in college that didnt have the opportunity?
No you dont-good players get offers- they have choices
Bad players dont
Same with good students

w t f are you even talking about?

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Really?
Do you know any quality soccer player that wanted to play in college that didnt have the opportunity?
No you dont-good players get offers- they have choices
Bad players dont
Same with good students

Man are you an idiot. They cast wide nets and hope for the best. Plenty, I would say at least half, do not work out as hoped. This is why they get replaced next year with a slightly better and younger model. It is hard enough to get it right at 18, and impossible to pick them at 12.

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Man are you an idiot. They cast wide nets and hope for the best. Plenty, I would say at least half, do not work out as hoped. This is why they get replaced next year with a slightly better and younger model. It is hard enough to get it right at 18, and impossible to pick them at 12.

So they got the opportunity to play in college
That was the point- if you get beat out by something better thats the way it goes
They dont cast a wide net when dollars are involved- they pay for what they want- sometimes they get it wrong but not too often- ads expect to see full rides playing

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So they got the opportunity to play in college
That was the point- if you get beat out by something better thats the way it goes
They dont cast a wide net when dollars are involved- they pay for what they want- sometimes they get it wrong but not too often- ads expect to see full rides playing

14 scholarships would be plenty to build a top program if they ave 10 full rides and 4 50% and got the right 18 ..... they NEVER do .... not even the top programs. They give tons of partials to try to a lot for their numerous misses each year when assessing the soccer abilities of their prospects. Some coaches do far better than others year in and year out.

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14 scholarships would be plenty to build a top program if they ave 10 full rides and 4 50% and got the right 18 ..... they NEVER do .... not even the top programs. They give tons of partials to try to a lot for their numerous misses each year when assessing the soccer abilities of their prospects. Some coaches do far better than others year in and year out.

far less than that on the men's side

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Ecnl reports on commitment per class every year on their sit.

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14 scholarships would be plenty to build a top program if they ave 10 full rides and 4 50% and got the right 18 ..... they NEVER do .... not even the top programs. They give tons of partials to try to a lot for their numerous misses each year when assessing the soccer abilities of their prospects. Some coaches do far better than others year in and year out.

go talk to any college coach about how big a deal a "miss" is. College coaches spend a ton of time trying to field the best team while getting the biggest bang for their buck (which as you say is limited)
the thought that they just throw $$$ at any big fast kid is stupid