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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAgain; we are talking USSoccer. Since 2016 women out gain the men in revenue. I get that you dont like that so move somewhere else please.
If you don’t agree with them then you better move somewhere else.
Do you have any idea how much revenue women bring in vs. men’s side since 2016. Any idea on what was paid to the women’s side vs. men’s.
It is mostly about economics of supply and demand. Male soccer make more money than female soccer players. If you want females to make more money then fill up the NWSL stands and buy NWSl product. I get we are talking about US soccer here, but the opportunity cost for women to play on US national team is a lot less than on the men’s side.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLiberals are supposed to be open yet they seemed to be the most closed minded of the group.
If you don’t agree with them then you better move somewhere else.
Do you have any idea how much revenue women bring in vs. men’s side since 2016. Any idea on what was paid to the women’s side vs. men’s.
It is mostly about economics of supply and demand. Male soccer make more money than female soccer players. If you want females to make more money then fill up the NWSL stands and buy NWSl product. I get we are talking about US soccer here, but the opportunity cost for women to play on US national team is a lot less than on the men’s side.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe attorneys for the women must have been so happy to read that filing. The USSF lawyers handed them the win on a silver platter.
Now they just need to manage the clock and not make any unforced errors.
Take it to the corner flag and start counting your money.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAnd you're arguing that they're wrong? Let's have the USMNT play the USWNT and see how lopsided that score is...
And then you have the issue of USSF structuring the woman's pay system to prop up the women's NWSL pro league, something that they don't do for the men.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe real argument is that the men are asked to do far more with no guarantees and less protection against injuries and the sponsors and prize money on the men's side pays far more money worldwide. While there may be a fluky year now and then, as there was recently with the men missing both the Olympics and World Cup, overall the men's team is going to bring in far more money into the USSF bank account.
And then you have the issue of USSF structuring the woman's pay system to prop up the women's NWSL pro league, something that they don't do for the men.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe real argument is that the men are asked to do far more with no guarantees and less protection against injuries and the sponsors and prize money on the men's side pays far more money worldwide. While there may be a fluky year now and then, as there was recently with the men missing both the Olympics and World Cup, overall the men's team is going to bring in far more money into the USSF bank account.
And then you have the issue of USSF structuring the woman's pay system to prop up the women's NWSL pro league, something that they don't do for the men.
Cut open an apple and an orange and the insides are exactly the same. Fact. Just different colors. Fact.
Pretty much you can make up whatever facts fit your narrative and call them facts.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post100% factually wrong on at least three counts.
Cut open an apple and an orange and the insides are exactly the same. Fact. Just different colors. Fact.
Pretty much you can make up whatever facts fit your narrative and call them facts.
Women have to play a maximum of 5 games total in concacaf to qualify for World cup and all 5 games are played over a single week at a single location. Men have to play 16 games total in concacaf over several months with half the games requiring international travel to qualify for the world cup.
Woman are classified as employees, have health insurance, are eligible for unemployment, continue to receive a salary if not chosen for specific games or are out with an injury and USSF pays their NWSL salary in order to lessen the economic costs on that fragile league. Men are 1099 vendors, do not have health insurance, are not eligible for unemployment, do not get paid for games they are not chosen for and are SOL if they get injured.
The men play in a much more competitive environment so every game is a grind on their bodies where the women play in an environment where they can go on cruise-control against all but a handful of teams in the world.
They just aren't playing the same "game" where equal pay rules should apply.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post100% factually wrong on at least three counts.
Cut open an apple and an orange and the insides are exactly the same. Fact. Just different colors. Fact.
Pretty much you can make up whatever facts fit your narrative and call them facts.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWomen automatically qualify for olympics. Mens U23 has to go through a series of qualifying games.
Women have to play a maximum of 5 games total in concacaf to qualify for World cup and all 5 games are played over a single week at a single location. Men have to play 16 games total in concacaf over several months with half the games requiring international travel to qualify for the world cup.
Woman are classified as employees, have health insurance, are eligible for unemployment, continue to receive a salary if not chosen for specific games or are out with an injury and USSF pays their NWSL salary in order to lessen the economic costs on that fragile league. Men are 1099 vendors, do not have health insurance, are not eligible for unemployment, do not get paid for games they are not chosen for and are SOL if they get injured.
The men play in a much more competitive environment so every game is a grind on their bodies where the women play in an environment where they can go on cruise-control against all but a handful of teams in the world.
They just aren't playing the same "game" where equal pay rules should apply.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWomen automatically qualify for olympics. Mens U23 has to go through a series of qualifying games.
Women have to play a maximum of 5 games total in concacaf to qualify for World cup and all 5 games are played over a single week at a single location. Men have to play 16 games total in concacaf over several months with half the games requiring international travel to qualify for the world cup.
Woman are classified as employees, have health insurance, are eligible for unemployment, continue to receive a salary if not chosen for specific games or are out with an injury and USSF pays their NWSL salary in order to lessen the economic costs on that fragile league. Men are 1099 vendors, do not have health insurance, are not eligible for unemployment, do not get paid for games they are not chosen for and are SOL if they get injured.
The men play in a much more competitive environment so every game is a grind on their bodies where the women play in an environment where they can go on cruise-control against all but a handful of teams in the world.
They just aren't playing the same "game" where equal pay rules should apply.
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If you stopped all USSF operations six years ago and started up the next day with a separate mens ussf and womens ussf that were completely different companies, and ran it out for 6 years and looked at the amount of cash flow produced, you would see that the women produce a lot more cash than the men.
The men sponsorship dollars are weak because they simply are not very good. They lose a lot.
The women are extremely marketable because they attractive people with interesting personalities and they win a lot. They fill stadiums.
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