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All you have to us go check OYSA standings. You will see a pattern from U11 to U14 of whonis in the top. Look at what clubs are in gold in every division. Youbwill see a pattern. Look at clubs with multiple teams in the top 2 or 3 divisions. You will see a pattern. I bet if they posted U10 results you would see the same pattern. Now come back after looking and tell me who is developing and who are flash in the pan clubs. Repeat after me. You .... will .... see .... a .... ???
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAll you have to us go check OYSA standings. You will see a pattern from U11 to U14 of whonis in the top. Look at what clubs are in gold in every division. Youbwill see a pattern. Look at clubs with multiple teams in the top 2 or 3 divisions. You will see a pattern. I bet if they posted U10 results you would see the same pattern. Now come back after looking and tell me who is developing and who are flash in the pan clubs. Repeat after me. You .... will .... see .... a .... ???
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Originally posted by Mr. Reality View PostI don't think you understood my post (or ever will for that matter)
Some people have responded with some ridiculous quotes. One being about development is about how many players they send to college. If that is your idea of development then in my opinion, you are way off the mark. Look at the drop out rate at all these so called 'Top clubs'. They are not capable of getting a group of players at U9 and coaching them. That team will change so much over a 5 year period and after that 5 years a lot of the original players will have quit soccer. This is a fact that some of you guys cannot see. Must be a bunch of Republicans that hog this site :-(
These players that play college would have played college no matter what club they would have joined. If a girl is an athlete and she joins THUSC, FC, Westside, LO, BSC she will play college. It has nothing to do with the coaching staff. Yes, the club gives them the opportunity but they will still go and play college. Get real people!!!
'Drop out rate'? My dd has played from U11 and is now in H.S. with most of her teammates relatively the same at one of the two 'large girl clubs'. Every year there is some attrition as people move, decide on other sports, etc. But girls are not leaving in droves, nor have they ever.
The difference now and into the coming years is the reach of interested colleges. Previously it was the local colleges. With the advent of ECNL the number of interested colleges will expand beyond the Willamette Valley. But time will tell.
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Originally posted by Mr. Reality View PostI don't think you understood my post (or ever will for that matter)
Some people have responded with some ridiculous quotes. One being about development is about how many players they send to college. If that is your idea of development then in my opinion, you are way off the mark. Look at the drop out rate at all these so called 'Top clubs'. They are not capable of getting a group of players at U9 and coaching them. That team will change so much over a 5 year period and after that 5 years a lot of the original players will have quit soccer. This is a fact that some of you guys cannot see. Must be a bunch of Republicans that hog this site :-(
These players that play college would have played college no matter what club they would have joined. If a girl is an athlete and she joins THUSC, FC, Westside, LO, BSC she will play college. It has nothing to do with the coaching staff. Yes, the club gives them the opportunity but they will still go and play college. Get real people!!!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAll you have to us go check OYSA standings. You will see a pattern from U11 to U14 of whonis in the top. Look at what clubs are in gold in every division. Youbwill see a pattern. Look at clubs with multiple teams in the top 2 or 3 divisions. You will see a pattern. I bet if they posted U10 results you would see the same pattern. Now come back after looking and tell me who is developing and who are flash in the pan clubs. Repeat after me. You .... will .... see .... a .... ???
Boys U11 - Prem
LADF
WST
FC Portland
Boys U11 - Div 1 Green
WASC
Cusc
Corvallis
Boys Div 1 White
FC Portland
Foothills
Southside
...not seeing a pattern yet?
Girls U11 _ Prem
Pacific
NEU
THUSC
Girls Div 1
PCU
LOSC
ETFC
Girls Div 1
Timber Barons
HSC
NEU
...am I blind?
Let's just stick to Premier soccer.
Boys U12
Crossfire
WST
ETFC
Girls U12
THUSC
SSC
BSC
Boys U13
Capital
ETFC
WST
Girls U13
FC Portland
WST
THUSC
Boys U14
ETFC
FC West
4 H Real Madrid
Girls U14
Capital
WA Timber
RVSC
Well I do not see much of a pattern. So either your so called big three are not really that big or the others are catching up. I think it may be a bit of both. They are only big in the eyes of the clueless and it does not take much effort to catch them up. Anyone with an ounce of soccer knowledge would blow these clubs away.
Repeat after me - I...am....CLUELESS!!!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLet's go with Premier and Div 1 teams top 3:
Boys U11 - Prem
LADF
WST
FC Portland
Boys U11 - Div 1 Green
WASC
Cusc
Corvallis
Boys Div 1 White
FC Portland
Foothills
Southside
...not seeing a pattern yet?
Girls U11 _ Prem
Pacific
NEU
THUSC
Girls Div 1
PCU
LOSC
ETFC
Girls Div 1
Timber Barons
HSC
NEU
...am I blind?
Let's just stick to Premier soccer.
Boys U12
Crossfire
WST
ETFC
Girls U12
THUSC
SSC
BSC
Boys U13
Capital
ETFC
WST
Girls U13
FC Portland
WST
THUSC
Boys U14
ETFC
FC West
4 H Real Madrid
Girls U14
Capital
WA Timber
RVSC
Well I do not see much of a pattern. So either your so called big three are not really that big or the others are catching up. I think it may be a bit of both. They are only big in the eyes of the clueless and it does not take much effort to catch them up. Anyone with an ounce of soccer knowledge would blow these clubs away.
Repeat after me - I...am....CLUELESS!!!
Great post! I like seeing the success being spread around. Not sure if the FC, THUSC and WST parents will like it? It does show you that the clubs mentioned are really not that special.
#keeppayingthosebigbucks
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Girls This is about Girls
I see a little cherry picking here and you pulled a little slight of hand. But that's ok. I see what you are trying to do. Finish the assignment!
+ You threw the boys in to add some noise. We don't give a flying leap about boys on TS.
+ You stopped pulling Top 2 Divisions after U11. Isn't that when development starts to rear its pretty head?
+ You did not include Highschool and ECNL. Humm? Ok I will give you that one as a lot of consolidation happens then.
You have to be consistent and then you will see a pattern.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLet's go with Premier and Div 1 teams top 3:
Boys U11 - Prem
LADF
WST
FC Portland
Boys U11 - Div 1 Green
WASC
Cusc
Corvallis
Boys Div 1 White
FC Portland
Foothills
Southside
...not seeing a pattern yet?
Girls U11 _ Prem
Pacific
NEU
THUSC
Girls Div 1
PCU
LOSC
ETFC
Girls Div 1
Timber Barons
HSC
NEU
...am I blind?
Let's just stick to Premier soccer.
Boys U12
Crossfire
WST
ETFC
Girls U12
THUSC
SSC
BSC
Boys U13
Capital
ETFC
WST
Girls U13
FC Portland
WST
THUSC
Boys U14
ETFC
FC West
4 H Real Madrid
Girls U14
Capital
WA Timber
RVSC
Well I do not see much of a pattern. So either your so called big three are not really that big or the others are catching up. I think it may be a bit of both. They are only big in the eyes of the clueless and it does not take much effort to catch them up. Anyone with an ounce of soccer knowledge would blow these clubs away.
Repeat after me - I...am....CLUELESS!!!
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Any team can win with kick and chase at Ulittle. Look at the HS girls ages and the pattern is VERY clear. There are only 3 clubs in Oregon for girls. The rest are just taking your money to finance their boys teams.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAny team can win with kick and chase at Ulittle. Look at the HS girls ages and the pattern is VERY clear. There are only 3 clubs in Oregon for girls. The rest are just taking your money to finance their boys teams.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI see a little cherry picking here and you pulled a little slight of hand. But that's ok. I see what you are trying to do. Finish the assignment!
+ You threw the boys in to add some noise. We don't give a flying leap about boys on TS.
+ You stopped pulling Top 2 Divisions after U11. Isn't that when development starts to rear its pretty head?
+ You did not include Highschool and ECNL. Humm? Ok I will give you that one as a lot of consolidation happens then.
You have to be consistent and then you will see a pattern.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy choose the easier gender? Girls development is way different than boys. Clubs have to be capable of developing both. Take THUSC for example. Their program for girls is so called 'top three' because they choose the strongest girls and punt and run. In girls soccer, especially at the younger age groups, this is a successful way of playing. (For THUSC) Look at their boys program. Very poor and they need coaches that can coach. The club does not have this so the players suffer. FC are probably the most consistent but you cannot judge the development of a club on a specific gender. That's silly.
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Just girls then...
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI see a little cherry picking here and you pulled a little slight of hand. But that's ok. I see what you are trying to do. Finish the assignment!
+ You threw the boys in to add some noise. We don't give a flying leap about boys on TS.
+ You stopped pulling Top 2 Divisions after U11. Isn't that when development starts to rear its pretty head?
+ You did not include Highschool and ECNL. Humm? Ok I will give you that one as a lot of consolidation happens then.
You have to be consistent and then you will see a pattern.
U12 Div 1
PCU
RVSC
ETFC
U12 Div 2
CUSC
WUSC
***C
U13 div 1
HSC
WUSC
LOSC
Div 2
FC Portland
Pacific
WST
U14 Div 1
Corvallis
FC Portland
PFA Irish
U14 div 2
WST
Pacific
***C
I am not getting this puzzle at all! What pattern am I looking for?
Got it...All the names end in SOCCER CLUB? I should have spotted that one.
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