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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    That is why GDA is just as flawed as ECNL...it is left to clubs who are interested in profits mostly. GDA should have franchised this instead so that there is still money to be made by the franchisees, but they are not operating as an independent club. But we all know that USSF isn't really interested in figuring out a better system. They just want a national league, and apparently the quality doesn't matter that much.
    USSF wants clubs to carry the burden to lower costs to families. But clubs are businesses. They're certainly not going to run teams at a loss. The most they can offer is to run at break even but it isn't unreasonable that they want a little something for their trouble. Then there's the huge cost of travel not only for events but even league games. If USSF really wanted costs to be lower it they should have subsidized the costs to clubs (they gave some but it was a pittance). That cost could have been manageable had it been much smaller and focused on the true top players in the country. Instead they went for quantity, not quality.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      LISC may actually even be better than Fury DA (the "A" team) at the younger age groups...several players left Fury.
      You may be right. To the poster's point, how is that good for anybody? It isn't good for the better talent and really isn't good for the teams getting beat up on week after week. Those players and teams will drop out, furthering the downward spiral. GDA might be working out west but it sure is a sh*t show around here.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Yes, everything is watered down now, but ECNL will clearly be stronger as a league in the Northeast and competition-wise across the clubs/teams. Albertson ECNL was near last in nearly all age groups in ECNL. Maybe they will actually do better in GDA, as the competition will actually be easier. So they can have a false sense of how they stack up.

        The ones who are playing at a high level all know who else is at that level. It's too bad that LI is so fragmented, as it would be great if the talent actually remained consolidated instead of split across literally 4-6 teams now.
        EVERYONE is diluted. the fact you till want to sat ECNL is "better" is a joke. Just accept it. the platforms are NOT the stars. your kid is all that counts. If she has the drive, she can emerge from this mess. if not, .....

        This alphabet soup only serves to make ALL the games of questionable quality. By that I mean you cannot look at league stats, positions, playoffs etc to make any real comment about quality. You have to look at each game and the players involved and judge on an individual basis.

        All the My league is better than yours BS is officially redundant.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          EVERYONE is diluted. the fact you till want to sat ECNL is "better" is a joke. Just accept it. the platforms are NOT the stars. your kid is all that counts. If she has the drive, she can emerge from this mess. if not, .....

          This alphabet soup only serves to make ALL the games of questionable quality. By that I mean you cannot look at league stats, positions, playoffs etc to make any real comment about quality. You have to look at each game and the players involved and judge on an individual basis.

          All the My league is better than yours BS is officially redundant.
          Put enough teams and players in an "elite" league and starts to look more like good old LIJSL only at more then 10X the cost. Uggg.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            USSF wants clubs to carry the burden to lower costs to families. But clubs are businesses. They're certainly not going to run teams at a loss. The most they can offer is to run at break even but it isn't unreasonable that they want a little something for their trouble. Then there's the huge cost of travel not only for events but even league games. If USSF really wanted costs to be lower it they should have subsidized the costs to clubs (they gave some but it was a pittance). That cost could have been manageable had it been much smaller and focused on the true top players in the country. Instead they went for quantity, not quality.
            Fury 4,500. Not including travel. That's a shame.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Fury 4,500. Not including travel. That's a shame.
              Why is it a shame? Go play for a more reasonable team. Youth soccer is a business.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Why is it a shame? Go play for a more reasonable team. Youth soccer is a business.
                Many do go play for more affordable options. They could use more takers for those $4500 spots.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Why is it a shame? Go play for a more reasonable team. Youth soccer is a business.
                  Clubs are supposed to reduce fees as much as possible to make it more affordable. That price is anything but affordable; it's not even reduced! That's one of the big flaws in this league. The clubs are expected to take profit hits to run a league they get little from in return. They can't profit from home growns really, especially in the women's side where there is no big pro path. MLS clubs have to pay to train hundreds of boys in the hopes that they get one homegrown every few years.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Clubs are supposed to reduce fees as much as possible to make it more affordable. That price is anything but affordable; it's not even reduced! That's one of the big flaws in this league. The clubs are expected to take profit hits to run a league they get little from in return. They can't profit from home growns really, especially in the women's side where there is no big pro path. MLS clubs have to pay to train hundreds of boys in the hopes that they get one homegrown every few years.
                    This guy gets it, not the idiot above. This pay to play sucks, we all know it. And my daughter loves the high level, so I pay. But the USSF is doing nothing to fund the academy. This is funding PR's pocket. It's a shame on USSF for not making this more affordable.

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                      #25
                      NYCFC is charging 3K, and I believe that is reasonable given the parameters!

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        NYCFC is charging 3K, and I believe that is reasonable given the parameters!
                        Considering the training is all year 4 days/week that isn't bad, but it's still well out of range for many players, especially when you add in all the travel it's well into the $6K+ range. Even in BDA where fee reduction is supposed to be more of a "thing" some clubs do all they can to lower fees to below $2K. But others are charging $3.5 - 4,000. If you're not quite good enough for MLS or don't live near one you may be shut out.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          NYCFC is charging 3K, and I believe that is reasonable given the parameters!
                          Is this true? Doesn’t Fury charge $4500? What about LISC, PDA or NYSC?

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                            #28
                            LAFC left GDA and is now an “All In” ECNL club for 2018-19

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              LAFC left GDA and is now an “All In” ECNL club for 2018-19
                              Fine for them but they are thousands of miles from here. All NY kids can do is choose from the teams around here. Choose based on coach, budget, level, travel burden. Don't choose a team based on league.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Fine for them but they are thousands of miles from here. All NY kids can do is choose from the teams around here. Choose based on coach, budget, level, travel burden. Don't choose a team based on league.
                                Of course that is absolutely true. However, this is the top club in the top division leaving GDA. Add in the other excellent clubs that have already left, while GDA adds in local poor teams with Alby and Seacoast. As a league it is going downward in quality, not up. So yes your local club's coaching matters most, but who you are playing week in and week out matters also, national events too.

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