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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    It might be time to add civics education back into the curriculum.
    Most of these clowns, GOP included, have zero idea of country first and their lack of empathy towards the covid victims is appalling.
    Would mandatory service of some type, military or civic, help address some of this?
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    The differing views of what America is or should be will the fracturing element.
    Trump recognized this fracture and opened it wider.
    Demographics will slowly close the fracture but probably not in my lifetime.

    I think mandatory civic service is the answer. See how others live.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The differing views of what America is or should be will the fracturing element.
      Trump recognized this fracture and opened it wider.
      Demographics will slowly close the fracture but probably not in my lifetime.

      I think mandatory civic service is the answer. See how others live.
      We just need an enemy.
      Humans are built for strife, in the absence of an external enemy we fight amongst ourselves.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The differing views of what America is or should be will the fracturing element.
        Trump recognized this fracture and opened it wider.
        Demographics will slowly close the fracture but probably not in my lifetime.

        I think mandatory civic service is the answer. See how others live.

        Is this thread for real? Are there multiple people participating in this or is it some moron posting this foolishness and responding to him/herself??

        Let's stick to soccer folks. There are plenty of websites, blogs, chat rooms, etc that you can go to and post this non-soccer information.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Not the poster and of course it isn't "all Trump's fault." But his statements and actions (or often inaction), had a snowball effect among politicians and followers. He didn't take it seriously so then they didn't take it seriously. States and people that did take it seriously can only so so much to stem the tide of stupidity. He thinks he's a political leader but really he just leads a cult. Had he actually led the country he could have gotten re elected.
          It wasn't all Trump's responsibility to impose lockdowns, restrictions, mask compliance, etc. at the state and local level. He did not have that authority, and he skillfully maneuvered the burden from himself to the governors and mayors.

          The problem is that he also demanded fealty from his Republican party members. In order to stay on the right side of his base, local officials had to "agree" with his suggestions that the virus was a hoax, or that masks were unnecessary, or that mask-wearing regulations violated rights, or that no one was really dying from it, or that listening to the experts was somehow OPTIONAL. If Trump did not have such a strong hold over his cult, local leaders may have made different decisions that would have saved lives. He exploited the strength of his base to force local leaders to follow his plan, his regulations, his view of science and pandemic management. Guilty.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It's also troublesome the extent to which the GOP was willing to put party before country. Of course they've been doing it for years, but their getting in line behind Trump borders on treasonous.
            Do you honestly think this is a GOP-only thing?

            You seriously can't say that with a straight face, can you?

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Is this thread for real? Are there multiple people participating in this or is it some moron posting this foolishness and responding to him/herself??

              Let's stick to soccer folks. There are plenty of websites, blogs, chat rooms, etc that you can go to and post this non-soccer information.
              Unfortunately, those who hate will spread it to and there are no bounds where they will go. Yes, they call themselves the party of love, but nothing in their commentary says that. Sad state to be in where you hate someone, or a group in general, so much that you will spread it no matter the audience or forum.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Very few, and it's gets smaller everyday, have an intellectual capacity to calmly discuss how each party made mistakes and how each party got some things right. For instance Cuomo did a nice job "leading" NY State in daily briefings, but really screwed up - despite the fact that he thought he was doing the right thing - sending patients back to LTC facilities. Trump's demeanor and attempt to calm the country by saying "this will pass" likely cost him the election, but his movement to shut off China, get CARES ACT through, and initiate corporate response with Project Warp Speed was good. Or at minimum he didn't screw it up. Haven't met many people who aren't blinded by TDS that are able to have a calm conversation. Sad really
                Okay, let's have a calm conversation about making mask-wearing into a political statement. Accusing a reporter of wearing a mask out of political correctness, or actively undermining Fauci because he had higher approval ratings? Are you going to defend that? Are you going to defend the maskless super-spreader rallies? How do you have a calm conversation about that kind of behavior, and the decision making behind it? Is there a calm conversation to be had about ignoring science, and actively trying to discredit experts?

                We can certainly discuss decisions about Cares Act, Warp Speed, the strategic question of trying to calm the markets vs. inciting pure panic, etc. There's plenty of good stuff in there. But the complete abdication of his role as the country's leader, and complete inability to care for the health and survival of its citizens --- there is no conversation to be had about that.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  We just need an enemy.
                  Humans are built for strife, in the absence of an external enemy we fight amongst ourselves.
                  That's what authoritarian leaders do - they find an enemy and focus the anger on others. With Trump initially it was immigrants, now it's hate for the Dems.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Do you honestly think this is a GOP-only thing?

                    You seriously can't say that with a straight face, can you?
                    85% GOP. Is that better? Nothing represents the GOP more than what they did with Merick Garland vs Amy Comey Barrett. "Will of the voters" my arse, it was the will of Mitch McConnell. What the GOP has not just allowed Trump to get away with but actually get behind him is appalling. Wanting to charge people with treason and sedition? They don't even know what they're talking about. McConnell knew Biden was president over a month ago, b ut "oh let's just humor Trump for awhile". The GOP thinks they won a few small battles but what it will cost them in the end is the party itself. Good riddance.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Monday will be the day that everything is stopped and nobody can do anything about it. Luckily we got a fall season in and some
                      Hows that thread working out for you??? My son is playing 4x a week- 2 practices and 2 futsal and we are leaving for Virginia in 6 weeks. So not only we got a fall season in like u said the spring is going to be awesome!

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