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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    From what I’ve seen in these calls when they do the retake the ref is making the GK stand inside the net with their toes on the line. And they are repeatedly telling the GK to keep their feet planted there. Every one of the GK’s whether they are from Nigeria, Jamaica, or Scotland has had a bemused or annoyed look that says “Why are we doing this? How could I ever stop a PK this way?” - and they are right, you won’t! The PK already gives a big advantage to the kicker, but this approach almost guarantees that a shot won’t be blocked by the GK.
    EXACTLY what my GK said. The GK is already severely disadvantaged and now even more so. The reason those GKs looked annoyed is this isn't how it's been done/never enforced. Bad time to introduce a bad rule

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      EXACTLY what my GK said. The GK is already severely disadvantaged and now even more so. The reason those GKs looked annoyed is this isn't how it's been done/never enforced. Bad time to introduce a bad rule
      What need’s fixing isn’t the VAR, but the penalty shot. It a turkey shoot. Should modify it like the Old MLS one or the Hockey one. Or just back up the shooter more.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        From what I’ve seen in these calls when they do the retake the ref is making the GK stand inside the net with their toes on the line. And they are repeatedly telling the GK to keep their feet planted there. Every one of the GK’s whether they are from Nigeria, Jamaica, or Scotland has had a bemused or annoyed look that says “Why are we doing this? How could I ever stop a PK this way?” - and they are right, you won’t! The PK already gives a big advantage to the kicker, but this approach almost guarantees that a shot won’t be blocked by the GK.
        Disagree. I watched the ref instruct the Italian goalie on what to do. She clearly mimicked one foot off the line and one on - OK. The other foot off the line and one on - OK. Two feet off the line - OK. Behind the line - OK. Toes on the line vs. the heels - OK. Both feet in front of the line - Not OK. Moving side to side - OK

        Sorry, this isn't new. I've seen goalies called for it before. Follow the friggin' rules and you won't have a problem.

        Now, the problem is that because this is a dead ball, no other activity around it, VAR is watching it like hawks. It would happen often, but harder to catch because the timing of the movement when the ball is struck leaves you to looking in two places at once. VAR catches what would go by before. Doesn't mean it was OK before.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          What need’s fixing isn’t the VAR, but the penalty shot. It a turkey shoot. Should modify it like the Old MLS one or the Hockey one. Or just back up the shooter more.
          It's a penalty! It's supposed to be hard for the goalie, that's the point. It's a punishment.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It's a penalty! It's supposed to be hard for the goalie, that's the point. It's a punishment.
            so that's what you call PK's at the end of the game, a punishment for the teams not getting it done in regulation and overtime? they are called penalty kicks you know.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              so that's what you call PK's at the end of the game, a punishment for the teams not getting it done in regulation and overtime? they are called penalty kicks you know.
              When did the subject turn to the end of the game?

              That's a different discussion altogether.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                When did the subject turn to the end of the game?

                That's a different discussion altogether.
                How is it different? The same rules apply. PK and PK's are the same and if a GK moves off of the line, it's nullified as well.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  It's a penalty! It's supposed to be hard for the goalie, that's the point. It's a punishment.
                  So what is your feeling with the PK taker just misses and the VAR has allowed a do over because GK moved off the line (although the shot was missed by the taker)? That should not be allowed. As someone posted, that's just a do over.

                  Btw when the girls come off of their lines before the ball is struck (despite not interfering directly with the play), it distracts the GK. This is why that should be called as well.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    So what is your feeling with the PK taker just misses and the VAR has allowed a do over because GK moved off the line (although the shot was missed by the taker)? That should not be allowed. As someone posted, that's just a do over.

                    Btw when the girls come off of their lines before the ball is struck (despite not interfering directly with the play), it distracts the GK. This is why that should be called as well.
                    Yes, it should be allowed to retake as it's essentially argued that they were distracted and it's why they missed.

                    And, yes, if players go into the box early the same argument should hold on the goalie's behalf.

                    I think it should correct a positive result for the offending party. If the keeper leaves early and they still score, it stands.

                    If the keeper saves a PK, and the shooter's teammates were in early, it stands.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      How is it different? The same rules apply. PK and PK's are the same and if a GK moves off of the line, it's nullified as well.
                      They aren't different, only referencing that during open play it's a penalty for an infringement. At the end of time, it's a spot-kick.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        They aren't different, only referencing that during open play it's a penalty for an infringement. At the end of time, it's a spot-kick.
                        True. So why are the end of time kicks called PK's also?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          True. So why are the end of time kicks called PK's also?
                          and they come after extra time. call them extra shots, tie breakers or whatever, but you're right they're not "penalties"

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                            #43
                            FIFA Smartens Up

                            https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5185214

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                              #44
                              Ok the right move but it never should have been a card offense to begin with. The WC isn't the place to start monkeying around with the rules or technology.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                True. So why are the end of time kicks called PK's also?
                                Because they’re taken from the penalty spot

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