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how do we get the soccer parents out of soccer
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostExactly! In your average New England town, there is probably one, maybe two, kids in each age group who have enough passion for soccer to want to play all the time. There just aren't groups of kids hanging around the soccer fields to gather into a pickup game. This is why club soccer is so popular, as it's a place to gather all the kids passionate about soccer across multiple surrounding towns. Misguided parents will put in the time and effort to get their kids to club practice, since they are paying for it and regard professional coaching so highly. Far fewer would be willing to drive their kid a half hour to a regional pickup game. Sad when the adult pickup games far outnumber youth pickup games.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDon't agree with the passion part. Went to my kid's soccer practice tonight and out of the roughly 100 kids practicing on the fields saw somewhere less than a dozen who looked like they were in to it. Most were going through the motions. I came away disgusted and had a long chat with my wife afterwards about what the heck we are spending so much money for.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostExactly! In your average New England town, there is probably one, maybe two, kids in each age group who have enough passion for soccer to want to play all the time. There just aren't groups of kids hanging around the soccer fields to gather into a pickup game. This is why club soccer is so popular, as it's a place to gather all the kids passionate about soccer across multiple surrounding towns. Misguided parents will put in the time and effort to get their kids to club practice, since they are paying for it and regard professional coaching so highly. Far fewer would be willing to drive their kid a half hour to a regional pickup game. Sad when the adult pickup games far outnumber youth pickup games.
It's pretty difficult for an 11 year old kid to organize a pick up game vs. an adult.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCould you please post this scientific study somewhere so I can see the results. I find that curious. I know of the 30+ associated with my kid's age group/gender (3 teams), I can rattle off at least 10 kids who cannot get enough of it. Every time someone needs help to fill in a roster on another team, they raise their hand. They thirst for the game. Another 10 never miss anything and put in the work. Sure, there's a few out there who probably don't want to be there. I assume it's the same with piano lessons. Similar to the kids who go in to warm up on a ski day, and never want to leave the lodge.
It's pretty difficult for an 11 year old kid to organize a pick up game vs. an adult.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDon't agree with the passion part. Went to my kid's soccer practice tonight and out of the roughly 100 kids practicing on the fields saw somewhere less than a dozen who looked like they were in to it. Most were going through the motions. I came away disgusted and had a long chat with my wife afterwards about what the heck we are spending so much money for.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAlso in some areas kids can't just walk over to the closest park and have an impromptu game. I grew up in a "neighborhood" where you could stop at ten houses walking to the park and find kids to play with. In my area now houses are spread out and the closest park is a few miles. Then everyone needs to find a ride and it becomes a thing. Once the kids hit driving ages I've found the pickup games happen more often. So I think it' isn't so much the desire but more situational. Our lousy NE winters don't help either.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCould you please post this scientific study somewhere so I can see the results. I find that curious. I know of the 30+ associated with my kid's age group/gender (3 teams), I can rattle off at least 10 kids who cannot get enough of it. Every time someone needs help to fill in a roster on another team, they raise their hand. They thirst for the game. Another 10 never miss anything and put in the work. Sure, there's a few out there who probably don't want to be there. I assume it's the same with piano lessons. Similar to the kids who go in to warm up on a ski day, and never want to leave the lodge.
It's pretty difficult for an 11 year old kid to organize a pick up game vs. an adult.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostCould you please post this scientific study somewhere so I can see the results. I find that curious. I know of the 30+ associated with my kid's age group/gender (3 teams), I can rattle off at least 10 kids who cannot get enough of it. Every time someone needs help to fill in a roster on another team, they raise their hand. They thirst for the game. Another 10 never miss anything and put in the work. Sure, there's a few out there who probably don't want to be there. I assume it's the same with piano lessons. Similar to the kids who go in to warm up on a ski day, and never want to leave the lodge.
It's pretty difficult for an 11 year old kid to organize a pick up game vs. an adult.
Every kid is willing to jump into a game and play when asked. I'm talking about real passion for the game. How many of those kids do you honestly think spend time every day, not just soccer practice days, practicing on their own? How many of them watch Bundesliga, Serie A, Premier League games to study how the game should be played? I'll bet very few in your average MA town. Perhaps you live in a soccer hotspot, but most people don't.
Soccer hotspots. One or two enthusiastic parents coordinating pickup games and direction for parents.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostEvery kid is willing to jump into a game and play when asked. I'm talking about real passion for the game. How many of those kids do you honestly think spend time every day, not just soccer practice days, practicing on their own? How many of them watch Bundesliga, Serie A, Premier League games to study how the game should be played? I'll bet very few in your average MA town. Perhaps you live in a soccer hotspot, but most people don't.
She also works on her skills on the back deck every day.
You seem to have the answers on how many do everything slated above. What makes you so sure? (just curious)
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostA kid expresses a desire to get better at soccer.
Parent living anywhere but US: great play more soccer!
US parent: great let me find my checkbook!
Everything g is a league even rec and it all is controlled by some entity now.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI can't vouch for all, but I know my kid watches every game she can. Saturday mornings have EPL on back-to-back-to-back. Drives my wife crazy.
She also works on her skills on the back deck every day.
You seem to have the answers on how many do everything slated above. What makes you so sure? (just curious)
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