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    #91
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    High level U16s are already on coaches radar. No harm in doing GDA. The college coaches will
    follow wherever the talent is.
    So you think college coaches are going to travel to individual GDA games? Only for the very very top players.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      So you think college coaches are going to travel to individual GDA games? Only for the very very top players.

      Yes they will.

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        #93
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Yes they will.
        After much debate I think I would agree that the ECNL platform will provide more opportunity for college coaches to see and evaluate players than DA. DA may be more word of mouth, but the ECNL showcases alone provide such an opportunity for these girls with all the scouts and coaches present, it is hard to deny. If your daughter has a great game at a showcase in front of dozens of evaluators, it may be all you need. And ECNL will provide more opportunity for this than DA.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          After much debate I think I would agree that the ECNL platform will provide more opportunity for college coaches to see and evaluate players than DA. DA may be more word of mouth, but the ECNL showcases alone provide such an opportunity for these girls with all the scouts and coaches present, it is hard to deny. If your daughter has a great game at a showcase in front of dozens of evaluators, it may be all you need. And ECNL will provide more opportunity for this than DA.

          Again- if RANDOM interest is what you are seeking , I think you are making a big mistake. The ECNL has misled some ito thinking the platform is getting the kids recruited. The majority of kids get themselves recruited. Same way they did before the ECNL existed.

          Eliminate the very top kids - who EVERY coach in the country knows. those kids dont have to do anything except pick a school. Almost everyone else should be coming up with a list of schools that fits their profile and writing letters. Camps are a matter of preference. get the coaches to come and watch you play.

          My feeling on this flawed parent thinking is that most mcannot handle hearing hta tMia is worth less thtn they think she should be. If you list schools , you force yourself to take a hard look at realistic options OR face rejection. Much more palatable to "hope" some random coach offers you a spot so it validates your opinion of Mia.

          Dont fall for it.

          ECNL, GDA, NPL it really does not matter IF you take control of your process. IF you are leaving it to random eyeballs, then sure ECNL may offer more eyes, but ask yourself - how many of those eyes are going to randomly notice you ?

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            After much debate I think I would agree that the ECNL platform will provide more opportunity for college coaches to see and evaluate players than DA. DA may be more word of mouth, but the ECNL showcases alone provide such an opportunity for these girls with all the scouts and coaches present, it is hard to deny. If your daughter has a great game at a showcase in front of dozens of evaluators, it may be all you need. And ECNL will provide more opportunity for this than DA.
            In addition to attending games, college coaches are rows thick at DA events as well. As long as GDA attracts the talent the coaches will be there. It just might take a few years for that to happen, and I think some clubs are struggling with talent while others seem to be doing fine. Most kids who've already started the recruiting process won't need to move (college coaches know it's a questionable venture). Certainly if you're already recruited you'd only go to GDA because it appeals to you and you don't care about HS

            also - the above poster is 100%. Kids get themselves recruited. Showcases (and on campus camps) simply give them a venue to show their skills. Coaches don't go to events to window shop - they go with a long list of players who have reached out prior to the event and who might be a good fit for the program.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              In addition to attending games, college coaches are rows thick at DA events as well. As long as GDA attracts the talent the coaches will be there. It just might take a few years for that to happen, and I think some clubs are struggling with talent while others seem to be doing fine. Most kids who've already started the recruiting process won't need to move (college coaches know it's a questionable venture). Certainly if you're already recruited you'd only go to GDA because it appeals to you and you don't care about HS

              also - the above poster is 100%. Kids get themselves recruited. Showcases (and on campus camps) simply give them a venue to show their skills. Coaches don't go to events to window shop - they go with a long list of players who have reached out prior to the event and who might be a good fit for the program.
              Kids do get themselves recruited. But right now it's much easier to get themselves recruited at an ECNL showcase than it would be in a fledgling GDA league that will struggle to field competitive teams the first couple of years. The GDA teams are largely going to be crap at first and the college coaches aren't going to waste their time.

              I fully agree that long term GDA will almost certainly end up being the place to be, but for right now, if you are U16 and up you are almost certainly better off remaining on your existing team if it is highly ranked and showcasing on a regular basis. Assuming of course that you do your homework, contact coaches, etc.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Kids do get themselves recruited. But right now it's much easier to get themselves recruited at an ECNL showcase than it would be in a fledgling GDA league that will struggle to field competitive teams the first couple of years. The GDA teams are largely going to be crap at first and the college coaches aren't going to waste their time.

                I fully agree that long term GDA will almost certainly end up being the place to be, but for right now, if you are U16 and up you are almost certainly better off remaining on your existing team if it is highly ranked and showcasing on a regular basis. Assuming of course that you do your homework, contact coaches, etc.
                Sorry, but no. It will make no difference. You keep talking about teams that are highly ranked and that GDA teams will be bad. Here are some observations

                1. In some cases the GDA team WILL BE the old ECNL teeam.
                2. If the team is highly ranked , then surely it is made up of highly regarded players? If so, they are already being watched, no matter who they play for
                3. Colleges recruit players, not teams
                4. What does showcasing well even mean? If it means that coaches from good schools are watching, its because they are watching specific player(s). if player moves. so will the coaches
                5. If a well regarded coach moves to GDA ( and several have/are) the College relationships will still be there


                Bottom line, you are just wrong in your assessment. The reality is the people who look at it this way are probably not parents of kids who are at good Clubs or well educated in recruiting. if you write to a coach and express interest, they will usually respond . If what you want are teh spam , unsolicited emails and requests , then honestly, IF your kid is really talented, you have been getting those for a long time. If she is not getting that from your current Club, then maybe its the wrong Club. If she is getting attention and she moves Club, not much will change.

                ECNL or NPL or GDA are NOT going to get you recruited. They are not going to help you get recruited. They are all capable of providing you a platform to showcase YOURS skills.

                Take ownerrshipmand responsibilty for it and levae nothing to chance IF you want to give yourself the best chance. its no t the league, its the platers ability and at times persistnece

                its a simple distribution. there are a few 9+ player a few more 8s and a load between 5-7 .There is a College spot for almost all of them involving soccer if you want it. Aim realistically and focus. Forget the distractions of random events. The majority of your kids fall in the 5-8 range

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                  #98
                  What do people make of the latest announcements with Hofstra and affiliations with their coaches? Have they announced team coaches for the various age groups? I keep hearing they are having a hard time attracting players and may not actually field teams this fall if they don't get the quality and numbers they need.

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                    #99
                    That is good news. That is a good location.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      What do people make of the latest announcements with Hofstra and affiliations with their coaches? Have they announced team coaches for the various age groups? I keep hearing they are having a hard time attracting players and may not actually field teams this fall if they don't get the quality and numbers they need.
                      It makes their credibility go from nothing to something. I'd be surprised if they don't field in the fall considering that they can pluck an almost unlimited number of players out of Massapequa if they wanted to.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        What do people make of the latest announcements with Hofstra and affiliations with their coaches? Have they announced team coaches for the various age groups? I keep hearing they are having a hard time attracting players and may not actually field teams this fall if they don't get the quality and numbers they need.
                        Both LISC and Fury are having a hard time because most people recognize that ECNL is still the better league. GDA will take over in a few years but won't attract top players initially.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Both LISC and Fury are having a hard time because most people recognize that ECNL is still the better league. GDA will take over in a few years but won't attract top players initially.
                          The hard time is the result of all the uncertainty surrounding these DA clubs that were formed out of thin air.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Both LISC and Fury are having a hard time because most people recognize that ECNL is still the better league. GDA will take over in a few years but won't attract top players initially.


                            ECNL - Competitive platform
                            GDA - Developmet platform

                            The fact that US parents thing games > development is fine, but thats the issue. Not "better" league.

                            Majority of parents dont understand development, could not tell if their kids is actually getting better or not. They judge everything based on the result of the game.

                            GDA will struggle on LI especially becasue that community has no patience at all. ECNL probably better suited to LI for that reason

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              ECNL - Competitive platform
                              GDA - Developmet platform

                              The fact that US parents thing games > development is fine, but thats the issue. Not "better" league.

                              Majority of parents dont understand development, could not tell if their kids is actually getting better or not. They judge everything based on the result of the game.

                              GDA will struggle on LI especially becasue that community has no patience at all. ECNL probably better suited to LI for that reason
                              But how do you foster greater development in GDA if you don't have the strongest players as your teammates? You can only develop so far if the depth is not there. It will take time for this to sort out.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                But how do you foster greater development in GDA if you don't have the strongest players as your teammates? You can only develop so far if the depth is not there. It will take time for this to sort out.
                                The idea behind GDA is to concentrate on training, not games. At that level whether your teammates are the best or just very good shouldn't really affect that training one way or another.

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