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    Thorns = Pay-to-Play

    At $2,000 + $150 in tryout fees this is pay to play, pure and simple.

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    At $2,000 + $150 in tryout fees this is pay to play, pure and simple.
    Sure it is.

    You pay $2150 to play, but the actual cost to participate is $8K. The Thorns is covering the rest. You are welcome.

    Go somewhere else if you can find a better value. Value is determined by the consumer.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      At $2,000 + $150 in tryout fees this is pay to play, pure and simple.
      as a rati, for every 1 dollar (max invest allowed 2K) you invest in the NWSL Portland Thorns USDA you get $5 to $7 guaranteed return paid directly to your dd's in travel, fields, coaching. equipment and apparel expenses That type of ROI is unheard of and not to be confused with the local club directive of pay to play for everything.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Sure it is.

        You pay $2150 to play, but the actual cost to participate is $8K. The Thorns is covering the rest. You are welcome.

        Go somewhere else if you can find a better value. Value is determined by the consumer.
        You are missing the OP's point. Thorns tout themselves as ending the pay to play programs and making elite soccer accessible to all. That is simply not true. Discounting an $8000 program to $2125 doesn't help poor families. $2125 is just as inaccessible as $8000.

        Call it what it is. A subsidy for all Thorns players. Middle and upper class (no poor kids on any of those rosters). Subsidies are nice. But you are still pay to play and you haven't done a thing so solve the problem of elite soccer being out of reach for poor kids.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Sure it is.

          You pay $2150 to play, but the actual cost to participate is $8K. The Thorns is covering the rest. You are welcome.

          Go somewhere else if you can find a better value. Value is determined by the consumer.
          Savings are real in the DA, the cost/value of an airline ticket, ground transportation, lodging & food are not a value determined by the consumer, these savings are determined by how much these things would cost if sold directly to the consumer.

          The teams they play and the coaches they have don't have an actual dollar value and the consumer can certainly decide if they value them or not, but remember there are no truly valued or distinguished coaches at any club or DA currently, this could change in the future.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            as a rati, for every 1 dollar (max invest allowed 2K) you invest in the NWSL Portland Thorns USDA you get $5 to $7 guaranteed return paid directly to your dd's in travel, fields, coaching. equipment and apparel expenses That type of ROI is unheard of and not to be confused with the local club directive of pay to play for everything.

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            So every girl in the TA is in the NWSL? Even GPS doesn't call their team the Bayern Munich Bundesliga team. Your marketing genius is unmatched.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              So every girl in the TA is in the NWSL? Even GPS doesn't call their team the Bayern Munich Bundesliga team. Your marketing genius is unmatched.
              Yes if you say so, your intelligence and insight are just too much for the mortals in our community.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                You are missing the OP's point. Thorns tout themselves as ending the pay to play programs and making elite soccer accessible to all. That is simply not true. Discounting an $8000 program to $2125 doesn't help poor families. $2125 is just as inaccessible as $8000.

                Call it what it is. A subsidy for all Thorns players. Middle and upper class (no poor kids on any of those rosters). Subsidies are nice. But you are still pay to play and you haven't done a thing so solve the problem of elite soccer being out of reach for poor kids.
                There are scholarship available if $2k is a hardship and the player has special talent.

                The cost is in the travel. Play in a more local league if travel costs are an issue.

                Personally, I would rather subsidize other items for the poor than covering the cost for 15
                games per year.

                What about the kid who is not good enough to make the roster? Should everyone make the team as well?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Yes if you say so, your intelligence and insight are just too much for the mortals in our community.
                  You shouldn't post during happy hour at Paddy's.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You shouldn't post during happy hour at Paddy's.
                    Your intelligence and wit are unmatched.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Your intelligence and wit are unmatched.
                      As are your redundancies.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        As are your redundancies.
                        With a collective that has been brainwashed by con artists, it's quite effective.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Sure it is.

                          You pay $2150 to play, but the actual cost to participate is $8K. The Thorns is covering the rest. You are welcome.

                          Go somewhere else if you can find a better value. Value is determined by the consumer.
                          Collect $2150 from each player with a roster of 25 per and then travel by bus with 14-15 players and you can easily cover your cost and even pocket some money

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            There are scholarship available if $2k is a hardship and the player has special talent.

                            The cost is in the travel. Play in a more local league if travel costs are an issue.

                            Personally, I would rather subsidize other items for the poor than covering the cost for 15
                            games per year.

                            What about the kid who is not good enough to make the roster? Should everyone make the team as well?
                            Yes, if said player is needed to be a carpool partner for a starter that is a family member or close friend.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Yes, if said player is needed to be a carpool partner for a starter that is a family member or close friend.
                              Local club soccer resembles that remark. But the close friend has to pay 10k to be the driver. Wise move, to do it in the DA.

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