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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    She is a fairly new coach at UCLA and was at UCF before. The player was added in 2017. The head men’s coach or a university official could have pulled a fast one on her and said that the ‘special’ player was already through the recruiting efforts before she arrived and she was expected to add that player to her roster.
    Fairly new? She joined in 2013. That recruiting class was all her (4 yrs later).

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Fairly new? She joined in 2013. That recruiting class was all her (4 yrs later).
      IF a fake player shows up to practice ever, she would immediately be noticed. It's not like they have hundreds of players on the team. They had 29, with jersey number 0-28. This girls jersey number was 41.

      Even if a rec player shows up to an ECNL team, she would immediately get called out, let alone a college team stacked with 10 national team players (US, Canada, Mexico etc).

      It's basically impossible that some random player would just blend in at such a high level of play. I think more heads are going to role.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        IF a fake player shows up to practice ever, she would immediately be noticed. It's not like they have hundreds of players on the team. They had 29, with jersey number 0-28. This girls jersey number was 41.

        Even if a rec player shows up to an ECNL team, she would immediately get called out, let alone a college team stacked with 10 national team players (US, Canada, Mexico etc).

        It's basically impossible that some random player would just blend in at such a high level of play. I think more heads are going to role.
        Whatever, stick your analysis comparison in your ear. Encl is Rec as is da in Florida

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          IF a fake player shows up to practice ever, she would immediately be noticed. It's not like they have hundreds of players on the team. They had 29, with jersey number 0-28. This girls jersey number was 41.

          Even if a rec player shows up to an ECNL team, she would immediately get called out, let alone a college team stacked with 10 national team players (US, Canada, Mexico etc).

          It's basically impossible that some random player would just blend in at such a high level of play. I think more heads are going to role.
          What is your thing? I know kids that wear high numbers too 40, 45, 55, 80, 99 for some examples. The number had nothing to do with it. Some kids pick numbers in tribute to a loved one or a former player. The issue is that the NON playing student athlete was actually ON the roster; she made the website; she made the media guide; she received a uniform and other swag; she may have received priority treatment as far as picking classes and housing; she ate with the other players and then some. And, she was NOT an athlete. THAT is the issue.

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            #35
            AND more importantly, she received a spot on the soccer team as a non soccer player.

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              #36
              A USC AD administrator (the administrator indicted) was supposedly tough as nails with many athlete applicants, but not with the ones Singer was paying for her to slide in. She even had a staff member who was in charge of photoshopping. Because she normally was so strict with USC admission standards no one ever suspected

              Heinel, 57, who as an unyielding, by-the-book administrator rose to a position of unchecked authority during her 16 years in the U.S.C. athletic department, has emerged as a central figure in the academic admissions scandal that has ensnared members of rich — and in some cases famous — families. They are among 50 people charged with carrying out a series of bribes and rigged admissions qualifications, including making up athletic accomplishments, in order to get affluent children into prestigious universities across the country.

              Nowhere was the scheme more widespread than at U.S.C., where four others who have coached there — one of them until earlier this month — are under indictment. Heinel stands accused of being at the fulcrum of the scheme, conspiring with Rick Singer, a private admissions consultant, to obtain millions in bribes and then easing more than two dozen students into the school through the so-called side door of athletic admissions, using fraudulent athletic profiles."
              the article end with the tale of one rejected track star


              "Eight years later, Allice, the retired track and field coach, remains annoyed. Memories of that hurdler were dredged up by the allegations against a woman who now stands accused of fraud. The athlete Heinel said did not measure up to the school’s standards was hardly a borderline athlete, much less one of the fakes she and Singer created. The hurdler, Johnathan Cabral, ended up at U.S.C.’s Pac-12 rival, Oregon, where he would finish second in the N.C.A.A. finals in the 110-meter hurdles as a senior. A year later he finished sixth during the 2016 Olympics while representing Canada."




              https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/s...al-heinel.html

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                AND more importantly, she received a spot on the soccer team as a non soccer player.
                The administrator had the USC women’s coach between a rock and a hard place.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  What is your thing? I know kids that wear high numbers too 40, 45, 55, 80, 99 for some examples. The number had nothing to do with it. Some kids pick numbers in tribute to a loved one or a former player. The issue is that the NON playing student athlete was actually ON the roster; she made the website; she made the media guide; she received a uniform and other swag; she may have received priority treatment as far as picking classes and housing; she ate with the other players and then some. And, she was NOT an athlete. THAT is the issue.
                  You're missing the point. Of course she was a non-athlete. And of course high numbers are given all the time. BUT on this UCLA team the jersey numbers were assigned by the coach and were sequential between 0 to 29. Period. No other numbers, past 29...besides this girl with number 41. Get it now? That's my thing!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    What is your thing? I know kids that wear high numbers too 40, 45, 55, 80, 99 for some examples. The number had nothing to do with it. Some kids pick numbers in tribute to a loved one or a former player. The issue is that the NON playing student athlete was actually ON the roster; she made the website; she made the media guide; she received a uniform and other swag; she may have received priority treatment as far as picking classes and housing; she ate with the other players and then some. And, she was NOT an athlete. THAT is the issue.
                    I have no problem with your daughter wearing a high number. Educate yourself before mouthing off. Here's my thing:

                    "And so Isackson — who prosecutors say lacked even the modest accolades listed on her biography — was given the No. 41 jersey in 2017 on a team of all-stars and pros-in-waiting. Every other player on the roster was assigned a jersey number between 00 and 28."

                    https://thecomeback.com/ncaa/admissi...on-soccer.html

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The administrator had the USC women’s coach between a rock and a hard place.
                      Don't you mean UCLA?

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I have no problem with your daughter wearing a high number. Educate yourself before mouthing off. Here's my thing:

                        "And so Isackson — who prosecutors say lacked even the modest accolades listed on her biography — was given the No. 41 jersey in 2017 on a team of all-stars and pros-in-waiting. Every other player on the roster was assigned a jersey number between 00 and 28."

                        https://thecomeback.com/ncaa/admissi...on-soccer.html
                        And your point is? Are you noting what the reporter already noted and the obvious, that the student-athlete wearing #41 had no soccer background? Is this saying that should have been obvious because of her number? If that is the implication, I disagree based on what the other poster noted. You can't make any judgement based on the number on the shirt. You CAN jump to a conclusion when someone is on a national caliber team as part of the roster. The conclusion should be that he/she deserves it. Now, who knows what that means anymore.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          And your point is? Are you noting what the reporter already noted and the obvious, that the student-athlete wearing #41 had no soccer background? Is this saying that should have been obvious because of her number? If that is the implication, I disagree based on what the other poster noted. You can't make any judgement based on the number on the shirt. You CAN jump to a conclusion when someone is on a national caliber team as part of the roster. The conclusion should be that he/she deserves it. Now, who knows what that means anymore.
                          I'm honestly not sure if you are just stupid or pulling my leg! It's amazing that I have to spell this out for you, but here goes again: What the article is saying is that truly rostered and skilled players on the UCLA team were all assigned numbers between 00-28.

                          This particular girl was assigned a totally and completely different number out of sequence with the entire team and the system that UCLA followed for assigning jersey numbers.

                          I'm not insulting high numbers!! High numbers are cool. High numbers are great. Get over the fact that your daughter wears a high number. This is not a personal insult against you, your daughter, or her high number.

                          The point is that UCLA (not your team, or some other college) assigned this girl #41 which clearly indicated that somehow she was "different", "special", "not really part of the team" or whatever other reasoning they used. It obviously indicates that at least one person (if not the entire coaching staff) knew that there was something about her that was not quite right. Get it now?

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                            #43
                            Imagine how f'd that kid will be from all of this - pretending to be part of something she had no qualifications for. Most likely she wasn't treated well by the team. Knowing your parents committed crimes just to get your mediocre butt into a good school.

                            Then again, maybe she has no soul like her parents

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Imagine how f'd that kid will be from all of this - pretending to be part of something she had no qualifications for. Most likely she wasn't treated well by the team. Knowing your parents committed crimes just to get your mediocre butt into a good school.

                              Then again, maybe she has no soul like her parents
                              She obviously had no problem with it. She posed for team pics, took her fake jersey and went about her day. She is still at UCLA. UCLA is sticking by their story that she contributed to the team by being used as a practice player. Meanwhile all her Instagram posts were about her equestrian stuff.

                              If UCLA womens coaches admit that they knew, then one or all will get fired. They're all better off claiming ignorance and sticking to their story: "she was a decent player, nothing to see here".

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Imagine how f'd that kid will be from all of this - pretending to be part of something she had no qualifications for. Most likely she wasn't treated well by the team. Knowing your parents committed crimes just to get your mediocre butt into a good school.

                                Then again, maybe she has no soul like her parents
                                According to the la times story, she was on the thank you email from her mother to Singer. Full knowledge before pulling the wsoc Jersey over her head for website pics. #pull her degree

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