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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    How so? Do you mean a typical MA player won't crack a UCLA roster? Absolutely that's true. Big west coast schools require NT-type credentials and MA has few players that could be considered for that level. But the poster didn't specify West coast (Midwest, South?) or what level of play (top D1 vs lower or D2 or D3). As the saying goes, targeting well is what matters.
    What type of resume do you need for an East Coast D1 program in the 50-125 ranking range?

    Vermont
    Fairfield
    Clemson
    Providence
    Fordham
    Hofstra
    Penn State
    Quinnipiac
    Drexel
    Marquette
    UMBC
    St Johns
    UMass Lowell
    George Mason
    BC
    Xavier
    South Carolina
    Elon
    William & Mary
    Stony Brook
    Albany
    Lehigh
    UNC Greensboro

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      What type of resume do you need for an East Coast D1 program in the 50-125 ranking range?

      Vermont
      Fairfield
      Clemson
      Providence
      Fordham
      Hofstra
      Penn State
      Quinnipiac
      Drexel
      Marquette
      UMBC
      St Johns
      UMass Lowell
      George Mason
      BC
      Xavier
      South Carolina
      Elon
      William & Mary
      Stony Brook
      Albany
      Lehigh
      UNC Greensboro
      Guys, right? This isn't girls.

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        #18
        1. you need to make sure they are recruiting your position for that year. if you are a goalie and they have 4, best move on.

        2. Do you have a resume item that makes you stand out?

        3. Are you the fastest kid in the state?

        4. When I watch a game, will I notice you or do you blend in?

        5. What does your coach or DOC think?

        6. Have you or do you play strong competition

        7. Are you a teammate or a loner?

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Before you even plan a trip out West for an ID camp, you should definitely be in contact with the coach at the target school(s) and they should be showing genuine interest (asking for more video, more information, multiple phone calls, etc.). That’s true of any ID camp really, but you don’t want to be wasting time and money going West when there is no interest.

          Also, look at the current roster and if you don’t see any East Cosst kids don’t be afraid to ask why. The truth is that coaches recruit from the same places they’ve had success before. They’ll go to the same clubs and showcases and if they are in their backyard all the better. The talent pool in places like California is so deep, most coaches there don’t even need to look out of state. They are also careful given that kids have a hard time adjusting to new places,,especially thousands of miles from family and friends. So if a coach says he’s interested, but can’t tell you the last time he actually recruited an East Coast player I would be careful.
          Ask any college coach about their recruiting from their camp and they will tell you that they get at least one or two a year, but they see hundreds.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            What type of resume do you need for an East Coast D1 program in the 50-125 ranking range?

            Vermont
            Fairfield
            Clemson
            Providence
            Fordham
            Hofstra
            Penn State
            Quinnipiac
            Drexel
            Marquette
            UMBC
            St Johns
            UMass Lowell
            George Mason
            BC
            Xavier
            South Carolina
            Elon
            William & Mary
            Stony Brook
            Albany
            Lehigh
            UNC Greensboro
            You're all over the map with academics. Focus on academics and college fit first, then overlap it with soccer. Look at team rosters (what clubs and leagues did players play in, were they heavily decorated with accolades and awards, All State or NT camps?). will they be graduating a large number of players just before you'd come in? (the more open slots the better) Watch games online- can your player honestly hang with that team?

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Ask any college coach about their recruiting from their camp and they will tell you that they get at least one or two a year, but they see hundreds.
              A lot of them they say that when in fact many players almost have to attend to get the final nod. They were asked to come, they weren't "discovered" at the camp. One or two from a camp would be the max. They are interested in maybe at most 20-25 players, most of whom they've already seen before then they whittle it down to the 5-8 most will typically add each year.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Guys, right? This isn't girls.
                You are correct, men’s soccer.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You are correct, men’s soccer.
                  We attended some of the TDS camps. Not worth it. Multiple schools, some that were posted as attending didn't and some that did, not the same caliber. That is the problem when you sign up and attend some of these all inclusive camps/clinics. It's a bait and switch thing.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    A lot of them they say that when in fact many players almost have to attend to get the final nod. They were asked to come, they weren't "discovered" at the camp. One or two from a camp would be the max. They are interested in maybe at most 20-25 players, most of whom they've already seen before then they whittle it down to the 5-8 most will typically add each year.
                    Agreed, but I’d say of the 20-25 players they are interested in 90% of them made contact with the coach prior to the camp and were invited to it. Those players are typically split off from the pack at camp for the head coach’s evaluation while the remaining players are further broken down for evaluation by assistants. To be the few players from the pack that are picked for further evaluation by the head coach you really need to be special.

                    I’m talking ID camps held by the target school, which really are the only ones I’d recommend. The regional, multi-school camps are rarely worth it so if time and budget are a concern I’d pass on these.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Agreed, but I’d say of the 20-25 players they are interested in 90% of them made contact with the coach prior to the camp and were invited to it. Those players are typically split off from the pack at camp for the head coach’s evaluation while the remaining players are further broken down for evaluation by assistants. To be the few players from the pack that are picked for further evaluation by the head coach you really need to be special.

                      I’m talking ID camps held by the target school, which really are the only ones I’d recommend. The regional, multi-school camps are rarely worth it so if time and budget are a concern I’d pass on these.
                      op here and I agree. The big ones might be worth it as a get-your-feet wet experience or if it's the only way to get in front of a program far away, but that's it. For on campus events you need to be in that top group. Otherwise you're just padding the operating budget

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        How so? Do you mean a typical MA player won't crack a UCLA roster? Absolutely that's true. Big west coast schools require NT-type credentials and MA has few players that could be considered for that level. But the poster didn't specify West coast (Midwest, South?) or what level of play (top D1 vs lower or D2 or D3). As the saying goes, targeting well is what matters.
                        I’m sorry, but you sound like you don’t have a clue. While there are a higher proportion of players with YNT or even senior NT on “big” West Coast rosters, the average player at Stanford, UCLA, USC, etc. has never been on a YNT/NT roster. There are many East Coast, and even MA players, that have or could appear on a YNT/NT roster. It’s just not true to say East Coast or MA has no players that can match other regions.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I’m sorry, but you sound like you don’t have a clue. While there are a higher proportion of players with YNT or even senior NT on “big” West Coast rosters, the average player at Stanford, UCLA, USC, etc. has never been on a YNT/NT roster. There are many East Coast, and even MA players, that have or could appear on a YNT/NT roster. It’s just not true to say East Coast or MA has no players that can match other regions.
                          Poster didn't say none, just not many are good enough to crack top rosters. It's just the reality of a smaller state, there's only so much "top" talent. Most kids also want to go a half day's drive from home too.

                          CA schools don't need to look further than CO to fill their rosters. Take a look at them - almost entirely west coast kids. The depth of talent out there is absurd. There's one NJ kid at Stanford and a MA player at USC.

                          Stanford #2 https://gostanford.com/roster.aspx?roster=674&path=wsoc
                          USC #6: https://usctrojans.com/roster.aspx?roster=260&path=wsoc
                          UCLA #7 https://uclabruins.com/roster.aspx?r...2207&path=wsoc

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                            #28
                            Very few New England players on any top rosters. Small states with smaller player pools, bigger programs are further away + loads of great academic schools on the east coast.

                            This years' top 20

                            FL State
                            Stanford
                            Georgetown - 1 MA, 1 CT
                            UNC
                            Baylor
                            USC - 1 MA
                            UCLA
                            Tennesee
                            West VA - 1 CT
                            Duke - 2 MA, 1 RI
                            Texas A&M
                            Santa Clara
                            UVA
                            Penn State - 1 CT
                            Memphis
                            South FL
                            Texas
                            NC State
                            TCU
                            Kansas

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Very few New England players on any top rosters. Small states with smaller player pools, bigger programs are further away + loads of great academic schools on the east coast.

                              This years' top 20

                              FL State
                              Stanford
                              Georgetown - 1 MA, 1 CT
                              UNC
                              Baylor
                              USC - 1 MA
                              UCLA
                              Tennesee
                              West VA - 1 CT
                              Duke - 2 MA, 1 RI
                              Texas A&M
                              Santa Clara
                              UVA
                              Penn State - 1 CT
                              Memphis
                              South FL
                              Texas
                              NC State
                              TCU
                              Kansas
                              The conversation was guys teams. Way to twist it to fit your agenda.

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                                #30
                                Let’s try men’s top ranked D1:

                                Indiana
                                Wake Forest - 1 CT
                                Maryland - 1 CT
                                Akron - 1 MA
                                Louisville -1 RI

                                8 of the top ranked teams are East of the Mississippi (Stanford #9)

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