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    #61
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    I understandyour point but You mean the Marketing team from Chicago. Ask them next time how many players from the Florida Fire junior clubs ever played for their professional team.
    Why does this go straight to professional soccer? Just let it go. GPS advertises Bayern Munich, Azzuri advertise Orlando City... there are ties to a professional club. Their goal is out of all affiliates, not just Florida, that they can find a couple academy kids each year. Their goal out of ALL academy kids is that they can sign a couple each year to a professional contract.

    No one is advertising anything different, but apparently you are looking too much into it. If your son is an elite player, he will get a trial with the academy. That’s all they advertise. I’m a parent, and I don’t expect anything more than that? Just because they say it’s an avenue, it’s not a lie? It is. But it’s SWFL as well. How many professional soccer players are we producing down here? To your next point to then we should go back to Naples Sharks, why? Is it really hurting anyone being affiliated with a professional club? Coaches with actual licensing? My oldest son played for Naples Sharks and had a parent coach. No thank you. That’s what we have Azzuri for. We don’t need two clubs like that.

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      #62
      Viewpoint of the majority

      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Why does this go straight to professional soccer? Just let it go. GPS advertises Bayern Munich, Azzuri advertise Orlando City... there are ties to a professional club. Their goal is out of all affiliates, not just Florida, that they can find a couple academy kids each year. Their goal out of ALL academy kids is that they can sign a couple each year to a professional contract.

      No one is advertising anything different, but apparently you are looking too much into it. If your son is an elite player, he will get a trial with the academy. That’s all they advertise. I’m a parent, and I don’t expect anything more than that? Just because they say it’s an avenue, it’s not a lie? It is. But it’s SWFL as well. How many professional soccer players are we producing down here? To your next point to then we should go back to Naples Sharks, why? Is it really hurting anyone being affiliated with a professional club? Coaches with actual licensing? My oldest son played for Naples Sharks and had a parent coach. No thank you. That’s what we have Azzuri for. We don’t need two clubs like that.
      So you advertise that you are part of the Chicago Fire organization and preach your ties and pyramid to being professional to parents new to soccer to sign up those kids then say it doesn’t matter. You have what appears to be fraud at best.

      Naples Sharks was more successful on every level compared to the trashy undertone recreational activity that the Fire is doing.

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        #63
        I find it strange that fire parents seem to think there is some strong direct connection here. You are a club affiliate, most clubs have one, almost every club in tampa is a "rowdies partner" ... well except liverpool lol.

        point here being... you are an "affiliate" of a club in Chicago. Not here in FL. This club has MANY other affiliate youth clubs across the country. Many other clubs have the same model here (GPS, Liverpool, Juventus, etc). So if your fire club has lets say 100 kids in realistic recruiting age teams (16-18yo) and there are 30 other clubs around the country with a relatively similar number. Little Landon would need to be the top player or two out of 3000 to even be looked at for professional consideration.

        I think you guys seem to be confusing the system you are in for the MLS sponsored DA teams (or whatever they are going to move to soon). This is usually a group of teams that practice right down the street from the pro club.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I find it strange that fire parents seem to think there is some strong direct connection here. You are a club affiliate, most clubs have one, almost every club in tampa is a "rowdies partner" ... well except liverpool lol.

          point here being... you are an "affiliate" of a club in Chicago. Not here in FL. This club has MANY other affiliate youth clubs across the country. Many other clubs have the same model here (GPS, Liverpool, Juventus, etc). So if your fire club has lets say 100 kids in realistic recruiting age teams (16-18yo) and there are 30 other clubs around the country with a relatively similar number. Little Landon would need to be the top player or two out of 3000 to even be looked at for professional consideration.

          I think you guys seem to be confusing the system you are in for the MLS sponsored DA teams (or whatever they are going to move to soon). This is usually a group of teams that practice right down the street from the pro club.
          I think you are being too realistic and making too much sense. The other poster that seems to keep this thread alive just doesn’t like Fire, so he/she will try to spin any common sense you say on its back.

          To other poster:
          Before Fire, not just with Naples Sharks but this whole area besides one club, there were parent coaches, no success on a state level, etc. Florida Premier/Island Coast was only competitive club that actually took it serious. Since Fire has come, everyone else has stepped up their game which is for the better. Yes, higher prices because you have more overhead, but you’re getting a better product whether you think so or not. $1000 for a club season of 10-months is nothing. That’s $100/mo? Some trainers charge $100/session. The real cost is in travel: hotels, food, family going, etc. Are you mad now that your team has to travel and play in better leagues, showcases, get seen by colleges? Should everyone just play locally still as well?

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            #65
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            I think you are being too realistic and making too much sense. The other poster that seems to keep this thread alive just doesn’t like Fire, so he/she will try to spin any common sense you say on its back.

            To other poster:
            Before Fire, not just with Naples Sharks but this whole area besides one club, there were parent coaches, no success on a state level, etc. Florida Premier/Island Coast was only competitive club that actually took it serious. Since Fire has come, everyone else has stepped up their game which is for the better. Yes, higher prices because you have more overhead, but you’re getting a better product whether you think so or not. $1000 for a club season of 10-months is nothing. That’s $100/mo? Some trainers charge $100/session. The real cost is in travel: hotels, food, family going, etc. Are you mad now that your team has to travel and play in better leagues, showcases, get seen by colleges? Should everyone just play locally still as well?
            Bring back the YMCA yellow lillies that was my daughters favorite team.

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              #66
              Fire smoke smells like fraud

              Not answering why Fire sells self as highly competitive club that is part of the Chicago Fire pyramid pathway to pros when it has two practices a week with horrible coaching.

              Naples Sharks was honest with who they were and still had a few top teams. One was ranked number one in the nation once.

              Naples Sharks also had a DOC that trained someone into professional soccer and that player also ended up captain of that team.

              Bring back the Naples Sharks and the goodness of that club.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Not answering why Fire sells self as highly competitive club that is part of the Chicago Fire pyramid pathway to pros when it has two practices a week with horrible coaching.

                Naples Sharks was honest with who they were and still had a few top teams. One was ranked number one in the nation once.

                Naples Sharks also had a DOC that trained someone into professional soccer and that player also ended up captain of that team.

                Bring back the Naples Sharks and the goodness of that club.
                You are the one believing fairy tales if you think Naples Sharks ever had a team that was #1 in nation.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Not answering why Fire sells self as highly competitive club that is part of the Chicago Fire pyramid pathway to pros when it has two practices a week with horrible coaching.

                  Naples Sharks was honest with who they were and still had a few top teams. One was ranked number one in the nation once.

                  Naples Sharks also had a DOC that trained someone into professional soccer and that player also ended up captain of that team.

                  Bring back the Naples Sharks and the goodness of that club.
                  Maybe bring back the Naples sharks...But not the same idiot board or coaching directors

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    You are the one believing fairy tales if you think Naples Sharks ever had a team that was #1 in nation.
                    Yes and it was a dedicated to developing soccer parent coach that made it happen.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Yes and it was a dedicated to developing soccer parent coach that made it happen.
                      Don’t forget the population in Collier County is now double what it was when the Sharks were their own club. Wonder what Coach R. Could do today! As well as Coach Miles! And the original coach Rob. Etc. with all that talent that is now being wasted on two only a week practices.

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                        #71
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Don’t forget the population in Collier County is now double what it was when the Sharks were their own club. Wonder what Coach R. Could do today! As well as Coach Miles! And the original coach Rob. Etc. with all that talent that is now being wasted on two only a week practices.
                        Why does PW allow his once greatness be asociatef with what could be seen as a fraudian sham of a club?

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Why does PW allow his once greatness be asociatef with what could be seen as a fraudian sham of a club?
                          Most would agree that it is a recreational soccer activity that poses as a competitive club of which is why they appear to be dirty players it is most likely they don’t even know how to play the game never mind having any skills to play the game correctly.

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