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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You cannot go by the Aug-Jul because not every state groups the kids that way ... easiest way to do it is by graduation year ... lax has been doing this along with other sports for years now ... maybe people should take note.
    LAX is a dumb sport!

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Why Aug-Jul?
      That’s the way it used to be. It lines up with the school year for the majority of the country.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        LAX is a dumb sport!
        Agreed. Dumbest. Sport. Ever. If you can even call it a sport.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Heard there is a meeting, going on this week, in California to discuss getting rid of the birth year initiative and going back to the way it was a few years ago.

          Anyone else hear this? From a credible source.

          This would really mess with the .001 percent that might get to a US Soccer camp...

          Kids (the 99.99999%) not going to play on the US team can actually play soccer with their friends and classmates again? What a concept!!!
          This keeps coming up. All the big soccer meetings have come and gone without anything mentioned of birth year initiative. Why mention yet again?

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            #20
            Because it’s hated.

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              #21
              It will certainly happen, but it’s a year or two away

              It’s just not working for most of the US the way it is for too many reasons

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                #22
                That’s just sad. The group that got screwed the worst the first change, gets screwed yet again.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  That’s the way it used to be. It lines up with the school year for the majority of the country.
                  It lines up with much of the country, not sure if it's the majority.

                  A majority weren't affected with the last change, so does majority rule or not?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    It lines up with much of the country, not sure if it's the majority.

                    A majority weren't affected with the last change, so does majority rule or not?
                    Far more players were negatively affected by switching to birth year than would be to switching back. So it is less about majority and more about minimizing the negative impact.

                    The other way to look at it is this: Switching to birth year only positively affected a few dozen players who are being tracked for YNT consideration, while serving zero benefit to pretty much all the other players.

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                      #25
                      College coaches hate this for recruiting. At U15 there are 14 year olds in 8th grade mixed in with 15 year olds about to be HS sophomores.

                      Must be fun at games trying to figure out who they can/can’t put on their lists to recruit and contact after the sophomore year.

                      U16 just as bad as some will be freshmen and STILL cannot be contacted while many on their team are being actively recruited.

                      Zero stress for those U16 freshmen- Right????

                      Birth year initiative such a joke. Except for those very few at US camps right now...

                      US Soccer - top down approach with a selfishness accepted by all? I don’t think so...

                      Change it back. It’s hated.

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                        #26
                        US Soccer, keep birth year for DA. That’s your main pool anyways (with a few exceptional ECNL players).

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          College coaches hate this for recruiting. At U15 there are 14 year olds in 8th grade mixed in with 15 year olds about to be HS sophomores.

                          Must be fun at games trying to figure out who they can/can’t put on their lists to recruit and contact after the sophomore year.

                          U16 just as bad as some will be freshmen and STILL cannot be contacted while many on their team are being actively recruited.

                          Zero stress for those U16 freshmen- Right????

                          Birth year initiative such a joke. Except for those very few at US camps right now...

                          US Soccer - top down approach with a selfishness accepted by all? I don’t think so...

                          Change it back. It’s hated.
                          Huh? Are your brain cells scrambled yet?

                          If you look good on the field, the college coach will contact your DOC/coach to express interest prior to junior year. If they are mildly interested they will push an ID camp.

                          College coaches only come to watch a handful of players who asked to be seen, not a whole team.

                          College coaches also hate that they have 16 scholarships to hand out to a team of 30 players. They should do something about that first.

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                            #28
                            not to mention D! schools like my alma mater are now rostering 30% - 40% foreign players

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              not to mention D! schools like my alma mater are now rostering 30% - 40% foreign players
                              No joke there are some D1 schools that are 60-70% int’l! Crazy

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                not to mention D! schools like my alma mater are now rostering 30% - 40% foreign players
                                here are the stats for those who want to swing wild numbers at the TS boards:

                                http://scholarshipstats.com/soccer.html

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