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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Wait....looking at this again, other than the college players, this U20 call up CONCACAF tourney team are already at the MLS teams, or England. So forget college I guess.
    Absolutely. If you want to play at the highest level you don't play in college-its very much like high school in that coaches need wins to keep their jobs. You go pro or go to Europe. DA ends abruptly so kids say 19-23 who still need more time to develop must chose between a very good college path or a very uncertain professional path

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      And if you look at the college players on this list, many came from MLS backgrounds. The wave of the future...sad but true.
      There's a growing gap between mls and non mls clus and this is another indication. Non mls clubs are also going to take a hit eith enpl.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        There's a growing gap between mls and non mls clus and this is another indication. Non mls clubs are also going to take a hit eith enpl.
        Why, cuz kids are itching to get injured playing in HS?

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Why, cuz kids are itching to get injured playing in HS?
          Because they see that there are diminishing benefits to doing DA, particularly on pay-to-play teams. Top D1 programs go for MLS trained players and internationals. Plenty of DA players are ending up in programs they could have without DA and good grades. You forget that some kids actually want to play HS but haven't been able to because they had no options. ENPL will give them an option.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Absolutely. If you want to play at the highest level you don't play in college-its very much like high school in that coaches need wins to keep their jobs. You go pro or go to Europe. DA ends abruptly so kids say 19-23 who still need more time to develop must chose between a very good college path or a very uncertain professional path
            You are so full of sh:t. Players 19-23 don't nee "more time to develop" you nitwit.
            Wayne Rooney played EPL at 16. By u18 it's pretty obvious who the handful of New England area players are who might possibly play pro, but's a handful of players. The very best couple of dozen from NCAA make it to MLS, the overwhelming majority do not. You should talk to some of the coaches in the area who played Div 1 and then went on to play Div 3 or Div 4 in Europe. If that's your child's goal go for it but he'll be very lucky if he makes lower level Euro much less bench MLS. Let's be honest, your kid is not one of the handful of players everyone in the area knows about and dominates in DAP.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              You are so full of sh:t. Players 19-23 don't nee "more time to develop" you nitwit.
              Wayne Rooney played EPL at 16. By u18 it's pretty obvious who the handful of New England area players are who might possibly play pro, but's a handful of players. The very best couple of dozen from NCAA make it to MLS, the overwhelming majority do not. You should talk to some of the coaches in the area who played Div 1 and then went on to play Div 3 or Div 4 in Europe. If that's your child's goal go for it but he'll be very lucky if he makes lower level Euro much less bench MLS. Let's be honest, your kid is not one of the handful of players everyone in the area knows about and dominates in DAP.
              Identification is different than actually going pro. Those are the exceptions to the rule. If more players were ready to play at 16-18 or even 22 in most sports we'd see them in the pros more. But they're not, so you're wrong.

              not the op

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Identification is different than actually going pro. Those are the exceptions to the rule. If more players were ready to play at 16-18 or even 22 in most sports we'd see them in the pros more. But they're not, so you're wrong.

                not the op
                Nope you are clueless. Is your child is one of handful of Revs playing up and excelling or one of the top couple of Bolts in his age group? If not, he will never play pro at a high level. If he is, the door has not been slammed yet. If you are completely nuts and think he might be ready at age 24 then go for it.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Nope you are clueless. Is your child is one of handful of Revs playing up and excelling or one of the top couple of Bolts in his age group? If not, he will never play pro at a high level. If he is, the door has not been slammed yet. If you are completely nuts and think he might be ready at age 24 then go for it.
                  Let me guess - you think your kid is the next Rooney because he's playing up on the Revs and he'll be an impact pro player when he's 18. Lmao....

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                    #24
                    Average ages

                    MLS 25.8
                    La Liga 27
                    Epl by team http://www.90min.com/posts/2405074-r...-league-squads

                    NBA 26.4
                    NFL 27.9

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Nope you are clueless. Is your child is one of handful of Revs playing up and excelling or one of the top couple of Bolts in his age group? If not, he will never play pro at a high level. If he is, the door has not been slammed yet. If you are completely nuts and think he might be ready at age 24 then go for it.
                      Prior poster here. My point was simply that there's a gap in DA for the very few players who have a chance to go pro. They're 18 or 19 and most still aren't ready physically. I was thinking like minor leagues for baseball or juniors for hockey. Soccer doesn't have that. The average mls squad will have very few young players and even fewer playing much. Here is the Revs roster.
                      http://www.revolutionsoccer.net/players

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Prior poster here. My point was simply that there's a gap in DA for the very few players who have a chance to go pro. They're 18 or 19 and most still aren't ready physically. I was thinking like minor leagues for baseball or juniors for hockey. Soccer doesn't have that. The average mls squad will have very few young players and even fewer playing much. Here is the Revs roster.
                        http://www.revolutionsoccer.net/players
                        This is why what a club like NEFC is trying to do is important. They are trying to build programming that can carry a player from the introductory levels all they way up to the pro levels. That results in a level of consistency that the Revs don't have because they have to rely on all of the other clubs to lay the foundation.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          This is why what a club like NEFC is trying to do is important. They are trying to build programming that can carry a player from the introductory levels all they way up to the pro levels. That results in a level of consistency that the Revs don't have because they have to rely on all of the other clubs to lay the foundation.
                          It's a simple problem players aged 13 and up have in the US- time on the ball. You can't develop professional/national players, who are competitive on the world stage with 4.5 hours of practice per week.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            It's a simple problem players aged 13 and up have in the US- time on the ball. You can't develop professional/national players, who are competitive on the world stage with 4.5 hours of practice per week.
                            Yes just as their teenagers ramp up their focus DA ramps it down. Even forbidding play outside of DA is (high school or other) counter-productive. Yes the quality of the soccer isn't always great and there's always an injury risk (which is there no matter where you play). But they'd still be plying more, maybe playing different positions they don't normally, taking more risks because a coach isn't following a set of guidelines like a robot, playing differently because you're not surrounded by 10 other strong players etc.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Yes just as their teenagers ramp up their focus DA ramps it down. Even forbidding play outside of DA is (high school or other) counter-productive. Yes the quality of the soccer isn't always great and there's always an injury risk (which is there no matter where you play). But they'd still be plying more, maybe playing different positions they don't normally, taking more risks because a coach isn't following a set of guidelines like a robot, playing differently because you're not surrounded by 10 other strong players etc.
                              Bolts now have their PDL team and Revs have a U23 team. These teams are to continue after the U18-19 age groups if the player isn't ready for MLS or USL.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                You are so full of sh:t. Players 19-23 don't nee "more time to develop" you nitwit.
                                Wayne Rooney played EPL at 16. By u18 it's pretty obvious who the handful of New England area players are who might possibly play pro, but's a handful of players. The very best couple of dozen from NCAA make it to MLS, the overwhelming majority do not. You should talk to some of the coaches in the area who played Div 1 and then went on to play Div 3 or Div 4 in Europe. If that's your child's goal go for it but he'll be very lucky if he makes lower level Euro much less bench MLS. Let's be honest, your kid is not one of the handful of players everyone in the area knows about and dominates in DAP.
                                Seems like there are many fourth and fifth years seniors who got MLS contracts though. And not home grown contracts

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