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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    If you are looking for a club to help your son get recruited the best solution is to look for the one with the most college coaches on their staff because their connections and friendships will yield more opportunities for him than simply being able to put "played on a top team" on their resume. That assumes that you son actually has the ability to be a scholarship soccer player and since finding a scholarship is very hard to do in men's soccer because there are so few of them out there, that means he actually has to viewed as one of the very best players in his class in this state. Truthfully if your son is already a Freshman he has either been identified as a potential scholarship prospect or he has not. Simply switching clubs will not make a difference in your son's ability to earn a college scholarship if he isn't already viewed as one of the small handful of soccer players who are seen as impact players.
    And your credentials are what, exactly? Guiding a kid to a place like, say, MCLA?

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      It is not desperation, it is reality that the identification of potential scholarship prospects starts in middle school. The problem with club soccer these days is the clubs often don't tell parents until usually way late in the game that their child is not really good enough to play soccer at the colleges they are typically going to steer them to go. The clubs typically have the whole team searching for scholarships as though they were all top level recruits which puts a substantial portion of them through a demoralizing process of rejection. The really sad part is any experienced club coach actually knows pretty early on where a kid projects to be able to play but most hold that information close to the vest so as to not upset the stream of paying customers. As a parent, you really need to be brutally objective about your child's ability to play soccer before you go chasing scholarships. If you are not seeing your son or daughter dazzle club coaches by the 7th grade don't fool yourself into thinking that jumping into the pay to play game in a big way will make a difference because it won't.
      Most of what you say is correct.
      However, I have seen far too many top boy players in 6th and 7th grade end up in the middle or bottom of the roster by the time they're sophomores or juniors.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It is not desperation, it is reality that the identification of potential scholarship prospects starts in middle school. The problem with club soccer these days is the clubs often don't tell parents until usually way late in the game that their child is not really good enough to play soccer at the colleges they are typically going to steer them to go. The clubs typically have the whole team searching for scholarships as though they were all top level recruits which puts a substantial portion of them through a demoralizing process of rejection. The really sad part is any experienced club coach actually knows pretty early on where a kid projects to be able to play but most hold that information close to the vest so as to not upset the stream of paying customers. As a parent, you really need to be brutally objective about your child's ability to play soccer before you go chasing scholarships. If you are not seeing your son or daughter dazzle club coaches by the 7th grade don't fool yourself into thinking that jumping into the pay to play game in a big way will make a difference because it won't.
        Sure, this is exactly what happens. Your coach knows by 6th grade and manages to keep you totally blind (including from all of the other dozens of inputs over the years) all the way into your kid's senior year of high school. BTDT myth #4937.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Most of what you say is correct.
          However, I have seen far too many top boy players in 6th and 7th grade end up in the middle or bottom of the roster by the time they're sophomores or juniors.
          The concept of a late bloomer is really not accurate when it comes to soccer because many of the physical characteristics that puberty impacts (like height) are not necessarily all the important in the game of soccer. What is typically more the case is the early bloomer, early fader. These are kids who sprout out early and find success because they are bigger, faster and more coordinated than other kids who are not as physically advanced as them. Time truly is the equalizer though but not because the other kids are what is called "late bloomers", but rather because the early bloomers have already hit their peak and are actually already being surpassed by the time most kids enter puberty. Club coaches love early bloomers because they help them win a lot of games but they soon become a liability once the other kids start catching up. An experienced coach usually knows how to look at pre pubescent kids and determine fairly accurately what their upside athletic potential is going to be but the problem tends to be many parents think that puberty is a miracle worker that will transform average into extraordinary and they often blame them for what nature hasn't delivered.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Most of what you say is correct.
            However, I have seen far too many top boy players in 6th and 7th grade end up in the middle or bottom of the roster by the time they're sophomores or juniors.
            Sorry but on the men's side there just isn't much of a fudge factor because there are so few scholarship opportunities. Essentially only about 20 boys a year from this area earn any college scholarship money so realistically if your son is not visibly the #1 or #2 player on their club team by the time they get to middle school their chances of landing a college scholarship are pretty remote.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The concept of a late bloomer is really not accurate when it comes to soccer because many of the physical characteristics that puberty impacts (like height) are not necessarily all the important in the game of soccer. What is typically more the case is the early bloomer, early fader. These are kids who sprout out early and find success because they are bigger, faster and more coordinated than other kids who are not as physically advanced as them. Time truly is the equalizer though but not because the other kids are what is called "late bloomers", but rather because the early bloomers have already hit their peak and are actually already being surpassed by the time most kids enter puberty. Club coaches love early bloomers because they help them win a lot of games but they soon become a liability once the other kids start catching up. An experienced coach usually knows how to look at pre pubescent kids and determine fairly accurately what their upside athletic potential is going to be but the problem tends to be many parents think that puberty is a miracle worker that will transform average into extraordinary and they often blame them for what nature hasn't delivered.
              Do you have any evidence at all of all the disappointments, heartbreaks, blaming kids, etc? You sure do love to talk. And you seem convinced that you really have some important things to offer.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sorry but on the men's side there just isn't much of a fudge factor because there are so few scholarship opportunities. Essentially only about 20 boys a year from this area earn any college scholarship money so realistically if your son is not visibly the #1 or #2 player on their club team by the time they get to middle school their chances of landing a college scholarship are pretty remote.
                Wow. A real expert. Thanks so much.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Do you have any evidence at all of all the disappointments, heartbreaks, blaming kids, etc? You sure do love to talk. And you seem convinced that you really have some important things to offer.
                  What are you offering except delusion and hate? People like you want the herd to fall off a cliff without ever questioning what they are doing and whether it actually is really going to benefit their kids.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    What are you offering except delusion and hate? People like you want the herd to fall off a cliff without ever questioning what they are doing and whether it actually is really going to benefit their kids.
                    Again, show us the complaints and bitter realizations of being duped that you constantly cite and rail about ad nauseam. You have total disdain for "the herd," and not an ounce of genuine concern.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Wow. A real expert. Thanks so much.
                      Op speaks the truth

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The concept of a late bloomer is really not accurate when it comes to soccer because many of the physical characteristics that puberty impacts (like height) are not necessarily all the important in the game of soccer. What is typically more the case is the early bloomer, early fader. These are kids who sprout out early and find success because they are bigger, faster and more coordinated than other kids who are not as physically advanced as them. Time truly is the equalizer though but not because the other kids are what is called "late bloomers", but rather because the early bloomers have already hit their peak and are actually already being surpassed by the time most kids enter puberty. Club coaches love early bloomers because they help them win a lot of games but they soon become a liability once the other kids start catching up. An experienced coach usually knows how to look at pre pubescent kids and determine fairly accurately what their upside athletic potential is going to be but the problem tends to be many parents think that puberty is a miracle worker that will transform average into extraordinary and they often blame them for what nature hasn't delivered.
                        Not the way I have seen it happen.
                        I suspect that there is a combination of both the early and late bloomer scenario involved.

                        Generally around 13-14 when the muscular changes are occurring and testosterone levels increase, so does the competitiveness of many boys. Skill levels being comparable, some boys just become animals and set themselves apart because they compete harder.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Not the way I have seen it happen.
                          I suspect that there is a combination of both the early and late bloomer scenario involved.

                          Generally around 13-14 when the muscular changes are occurring and testosterone levels increase, so does the competitiveness of many boys. Skill levels being comparable, some boys just become animals and set themselves apart because they compete harder.
                          If a boy is a pussy on the field, it don't change.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            If a boy is a pussy on the field, it don't change.
                            thanks Sigmund.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              I've been hearing many mixed things about who the top team is in the New England Divison for 04 boys. Many say Bolts or Nefc but I've heard some others. Can anyone clarify?

                              Bayside= Crap soccer, awful coaching and 2 good players.
                              Seacoast= Decent soccer, faring quite well for a team w mostly 05s and 06s.
                              Nefc= Talented players, well coached, but poor team soccer.
                              Oakwood= Decent soccer, many 04s playing up, well coached.
                              Valeo= horrific soccer, untalented players, poorly coached but they manage to get results by booting it up the field.
                              GPS= Poor soccer, few good players, well coached, shouldn't be in DA.
                              Bolts= Talented Players, Talented team, well coached, inconsistent.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Bayside= Crap soccer, awful coaching and 2 good players.
                                Seacoast= Decent soccer, faring quite well for a team w mostly 05s and 06s.
                                Nefc= Talented players, well coached, but poor team soccer.
                                Oakwood= Decent soccer, many 04s playing up, well coached.
                                Valeo= horrific soccer, untalented players, poorly coached but they manage to get results by booting it up the field.
                                GPS= Poor soccer, few good players, well coached, shouldn't be in DA.
                                Bolts= Talented Players, Talented team, well coached, inconsistent.
                                After viewing this. Are you suggesting that there are fewer than 10 good players in the boys 2004's? That's not many.

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