New World Order for Oregon Youth Soccer?

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Oregon Youth Soccer Association POLICY 802-2 SPECIFIC COMPETITION
Section 1. Leagues

(A) OYSA Staff shall determine whether OYSA will operate any leagues. Seasons,
play levels, and age groups will be determined by staff for any sponsored
league(s).
(B) OYSA will sanction competitive leagues upon application by an OYSA member
club provided that league rules and operational procedures meet guidelines
established by staff.
(C) OYSA staff may designate specific sanctioned competitive leagues as qualifying
competitions for entry into the Oregon State Championships or Oregon Presidents
Cup tournaments. The designation will be based on objective criteria applied by
staff that determine whether a league’s rules and operational guidelines will
comply with USYS National Championship Policy and OYSA policies.


Then this annoucement is posted on the OYSA official website now:

The Portland Timbers and Thorns have determined the club tryout dates for all participants in their Fall leagues for 2017.

FOR PLAYERS BORN IN 2006 & 2007: Not prior to May 8

FOR PLAYERS BORN IN 2004 & 2005: Not prior to May 10

FOR PLAYERS BORN IN 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003: Not prior to May 15


Last I checked this OYSA league (Timbers/Thorns) is sanctioned by the OYSA and as such OYSA would establish and mandate when club tryouts could be held.

Or did OYSA now become the TTYSA?

Just curious

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Oregon Youth Soccer Association POLICY 802-2 SPECIFIC COMPETITION
Section 1. Leagues

(A) OYSA Staff shall determine whether OYSA will operate any leagues. Seasons,
play levels, and age groups will be determined by staff for any sponsored
league(s).
(B) OYSA will sanction competitive leagues upon application by an OYSA member
club provided that league rules and operational procedures meet guidelines
established by staff.
(C) OYSA staff may designate specific sanctioned competitive leagues as qualifying
competitions for entry into the Oregon State Championships or Oregon Presidents
Cup tournaments. The designation will be based on objective criteria applied by
staff that determine whether a league’s rules and operational guidelines will
comply with USYS National Championship Policy and OYSA policies.


Then this annoucement is posted on the OYSA official website now:

The Portland Timbers and Thorns have determined the club tryout dates for all participants in their Fall leagues for 2017.

FOR PLAYERS BORN IN 2006 & 2007: Not prior to May 8

FOR PLAYERS BORN IN 2004 & 2005: Not prior to May 10

FOR PLAYERS BORN IN 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003: Not prior to May 15


Last I checked this OYSA league (Timbers/Thorns) is sanctioned by the OYSA and as such OYSA would establish and mandate when club tryouts could be held.

Or did OYSA now become the TTYSA?

Just curious

This is the monopoly you wanted. Keep rooting for ECNL to fail. Idiots.

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This is the monopoly you wanted. Keep rooting for ECNL to fail. Idiots.

Crossfire Utd & FC Portland have already documented their failures on the pitch in their elite league.

The question was asked do the MLS Timbers & NWSL Thorns have the authority to dictate tryout dates to the entire OYSA member clubs that play in OYSA sanctioned leagues? Don't really see this directive from Timbers/Thorns as being legal or holding any water as presented on the OYSA website.

Any thoughts?

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Another in a long line of stupid topics discussed here. Club tryouts for most age groups have been held in May for many years. Same thing, different messenger.

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Crossfire Utd & FC Portland have already documented their failures on the pitch in their elite league.

The question was asked do the MLS Timbers & NWSL Thorns have the authority to dictate tryout dates to the entire OYSA member clubs that play in OYSA sanctioned leagues? Don't really see this directive from Timbers/Thorns as being legal or holding any water as presented on the OYSA website.

Any thoughts?

They can dictate the tryout dates for teams that play in the Timbers/Thorns leagues, not other OYSA sanctioned leagues throughout the state.

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This is the monopoly you wanted. Keep rooting for ECNL to fail. Idiots.

More choices the better. Oregon needs some folks to resist the Borg.

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They can dictate the tryout dates for teams that play in the Timbers/Thorns leagues, not other OYSA sanctioned leagues throughout the state.

I understand they could dictate what date/deadline teams must get their applications in to register for their OYSA sanctioned leagues as an administrative 3rd party operating a league.

But, the(MLS Timbers/NWSL Thorns) have nothing to do with competitive tryouts for OYSA member clubs, that's not in any bylaws or usys provision granting a 3rd party running just a league the governance over club competitive team tryout dates.

Unless they are trying to manipulate dates of tryouts so their own independent (Timbers/Thorns) youth DA's could have tryouts first, which is actually the reason they want to promote this idea.

The reality is there are other sanctioned leagues in the state: do the (Timbers/Thorns) try and tell them when they can hold tryouts?

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Another in a long line of stupid topics discussed here. Club tryouts for most age groups have been held in May for many years. Same thing, different messenger.

Actually HS ages have had tryouts in November after HS season is over for decades, then about 10 years it was moved to August, just recently it moved to May.

The OYSA is the only message maker on tryout dates for OYSA member clubs.

Why do the Timbers/Thorns think they can create OYSA policy without any oversight?

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They can dictate the tryout dates for teams that play in the Timbers/Thorns leagues, not other OYSA sanctioned leagues throughout the state.

They let Timbers DA teams hold Tryouts prior to the official Tryout date and those same teams play in the OYSA sanctioned Timbers/Thorns league without any penalty. Whats up with that?

No league would ever be granted the authority to dictate tryout dates to OYSA member clubs.

This is actually very creepy or just a typo on the OYSA website.

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They let Timbers DA teams hold Tryouts prior to the official Tryout date and those same teams play in the OYSA sanctioned Timbers/Thorns league without any penalty. Whats up with that?

No league would ever be granted the authority to dictate tryout dates to OYSA member clubs.

This is actually very creepy or just a typo on the OYSA website.

Dirty Timbers.

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Dirty Timbers.

Timbers are ranked 18 out of 20 in MLS academy's for a reason.

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Timbers are ranked 18 out of 20 in MLS academy's for a reason.

They are ahead of someone?

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Chill dudes.
The tryout schedule isn't really different from last year. It is actually helpful for the local clubs. The academy tryouts are before the club tryouts. This gives the boys that don't make the academy a chance to try out with their local club.

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Chill dudes.
The tryout schedule isn't really different from last year. It is actually helpful for the local clubs. The academy tryouts are before the club tryouts. This gives the boys that don't make the academy a chance to try out with their local club.

There are so many intersecting leagues available for youth in Oregon and the USA, it's understandable and a responsibility that the OYSA have Tryout dates published and announced, as approved by it's membership of 70K. But, that's not the case here, instead the MLS PORTLAND TIMBERS & NWSL THORNS are under the impression they are now somehow responsible for all OYSA member tryout dates, which is not a power granted to them by the OYSA membership. Something has gone sideways here. Like others have said maybe it's a typo on the oysa website.

What's helpful is a clear line distinguishing that 3rd part league contractors are not the OYSA. The lines are not only blurred they're running all over the OYSA web page.

Only a handful of Oregonian Boys actually make or play for the Portland Timbers MLS Academy Teams at u16 or u18 it's also a MLS mandated fully funded program and they can recruit members from anywhere so the idea they need a local 'tryout' is asinine. They have scouts who should of all ready spent the last calendar year identifying locals who are ready to be future pros in the MLS homegrown boilerplate. Are they sleeping at the wheel again? and need to intersect their Professional MLS franchise model with non-profit neighborhood club soccer....not making sense.

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Chill dudes.
The tryout schedule isn't really different from last year. It is actually helpful for the local clubs. The academy tryouts are before the club tryouts. This gives the boys that don't make the academy a chance to try out with their local club.

How generous of them.