Concordia

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Quite a bit. It hurts now but this might be the best thing that happens to them. Maybe they’ll end up better off by focusing more on finishing their degrees and having a good life career. Kids are resilient and will be fine. I feel much worse for the staff who will all be losing their jobs, health benefits and possibly their retirement. While it is sad in the moment, plenty of other colleges the kids can go to to finish off their degrees and the disruption will only help make them stronger. The ones losing their livelihood are the ones I worry about more. This includes the coaching staffs.

Awful news especially for all the staff losing jobs. A serious bummer but many other comparable schools in the country for the students and players. Good luck to everyone.

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It is terrible...

However, this is a result of an education system that sees learning and students as customers. Selling a product (education) trying to maximize profit. Telling everyone they need an education - because they needed the customers. Can't afford it, no problem, get a loan. Not unlike the mortgage loan scams that resulted in Great Recession.

A electrician makes 120k a year at age 22. They buy their own truck and a second and are making 500k by 30. But nobody paid to go to college to prop up a system that really doesn't provide society what it needs. It's not the 1800's where higher education is needed to educated a generation of engineers, or lawyers, or doctors, or military tacticians. The origins of colleges and universities.

You don't need to go to college to be social worker and the education for many jobs can be had through on the job training.

Now, add in people that pay too much for an useless "education" so their kid can play soccer...

If you had attended college you might realize how many factual errors there are in your post. Sorry you missed the point so badly.

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It is terrible...

However, this is a result of an education system that sees learning and students as customers. Selling a product (education) trying to maximize profit. Telling everyone they need an education - because they needed the customers. Can't afford it, no problem, get a loan. Not unlike the mortgage loan scams that resulted in Great Recession.

A electrician makes 120k a year at age 22. They buy their own truck and a second and are making 500k by 30. But nobody paid to go to college to prop up a system that really doesn't provide society what it needs. It's not the 1800's where higher education is needed to educated a generation of engineers, or lawyers, or doctors, or military tacticians. The origins of colleges and universities.

You don't need to go to college to be social worker and the education for many jobs can be had through on the job training.

Now, add in people that pay too much for an useless "education" so their kid can play soccer...

I don’t think many electricians are making 500k/year.

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I don’t think many electricians are making 500k/year.

Union electricians generally top out about $70k/year, based on a cursory Internet search.

Someone who run an electrical business, fixing people's wiring for money, might GROSS $120k/year, even if it's a one-man shop. But that's gross receipts, from which one must deduct all sorts of business expenses (supplies, taxes, licenses, self-employment taxes, the cost of the truck, rent if there's an office), the net is going to be well under $100k.

Still a better gig than what a generic liberal arts degree will qualify you for, but electricians are not getting paid like dentists. You're better off being a director of coaching.

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It is terrible...

However, this is a result of an education system that sees learning and students as customers. Selling a product (education) trying to maximize profit. Telling everyone they need an education - because they needed the customers. Can't afford it, no problem, get a loan. Not unlike the mortgage loan scams that resulted in Great Recession.

A electrician makes 120k a year at age 22. They buy their own truck and a second and are making 500k by 30. But nobody paid to go to college to prop up a system that really doesn't provide society what it needs. It's not the 1800's where higher education is needed to educated a generation of engineers, or lawyers, or doctors, or military tacticians. The origins of colleges and universities.

You don't need to go to college to be social worker and the education for many jobs can be had through on the job training.

Now, add in people that pay too much for an useless "education" so their kid can play soccer...

Okay. Except Concordia was a nonprofit university. So not sure how they tried to "maximize profit."

Okay. Except no electrician I know makes 120k by 22 or 500k by 30. And electricians do pay - big bucks - to go to technical training programs. You might not call those "college." But they are institutes of higher education, they are generally for profit, and in order to make this fictitious 120k or 500k, one would need to complete these programs.

Okay. So you're saying that our nation trained all the engineers, doctors, lawyers, and military tacticians needed in the 1800's? So I guess your family physician just celebrated his 140th birthday? And there's no need to train any future engineers, doctors, lawyers, or military tacticians because the ones we have wlll never die and never retire.

Okay. Except you do need to go to college - and graduate - to be a social worker. I'm not sure if you are disparaging social workers or students who choose that field of study. Can you elaborate?

Okay. So you're saying education is useless, it costs too much, and (some) people pay for it only so their kids can continue playing soccer. First point is wrong, second point I agree with (and what is your solution aside from complaining?), and third point may be true (although it's none of your business). But, like your entire post, you're missing the point. There are plenty of student athletes at Concordia who are receiving substantial and/or even full aid packages. Those kids are screwed now. But by all means continue to push your ridiculous agenda that higher education is a scam.

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Boys soccer

This leaves Oregon with only one D2 school - Western Oregon. Who seems to be shooting for a 50 player roster next year.

This leaves zero boys D2 soccer programs in Oregon. The girls can fall off a turnip truck and find a program with money to give them. Not so much for boys

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This leaves zero boys D2 soccer programs in Oregon. The girls can fall off a turnip truck and find a program with money to give them. Not so much for boys

Agree that it is much easier for girls to get athletic sports scholarship money but there are plenty of other colleges in Oregon and the country that these players can easily go to to finish their degrees. The real bummer is all the staff who lost their jobs, health benefits and such with a tough outlook for finding replacement work.

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Agree that it is much easier for girls to get athletic sports scholarship money but there are plenty of other colleges in Oregon and the country that these players can easily go to to finish their degrees. The real bummer is all the staff who lost their jobs, health benefits and such with a tough outlook for finding replacement work.

Agreed. Timing is especially bad for the coaching staffs given that every other program has finalized their hiring. Concordia women's coach would have been a much better fit as an assistant as OSU than the Crossfire guy, but now it's too late. I don't think there are any coaching jobs open in Oregon at all at this point. Unfortunate timing by the school.

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Agreed. Timing is especially bad for the coaching staffs given that every other program has finalized their hiring. Concordia women's coach would have been a much better fit as an assistant as OSU than the Crossfire guy, but now it's too late. I don't think there are any coaching jobs open in Oregon at all at this point. Unfortunate timing by the school.

Very unfortunate. Head coach GH is a good guy, hope he lands on his feet somewhere. Especially tough if he has to relocate with his son being a junior this year.

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Very unfortunate. Head coach GH is a good guy, hope he lands on his feet somewhere. Especially tough if he has to relocate with his son being a junior this year.

Could he take over the crossfire job?

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Could he take over the crossfire job?

Not saying it’s the same but at least something!

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Bad timing ?

Agreed. Timing is especially bad for the coaching staffs given that every other program has finalized their hiring. Concordia women's coach would have been a much better fit as an assistant as OSU than the Crossfire guy, but now it's too late. I don't think there are any coaching jobs open in Oregon at all at this point. Unfortunate timing by the school.

You know what bad timing is. De - Committing to high school seniors just before signing day. This athletic department had a few programs that did this on multiple occasions without regret. This is just market place de - committing to Concordia. In their own words, “you will find something else”

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Gut wrenching

Yeah uhh just terrible, about a third of all the men’s and women’s soccer players were from Portland Metro ? I don’t think we are going to miss much locally from these guys closing the door

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It’s temporary.

They will claim bankruptcy, open up again and go back to NAIA where it’s 80% cheaper and the level of play isn’t much different

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Read the press release

They are closing and selling the property it is over.