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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Not true, but it was limited to local schools only.
    Many local colleges have relationships with high school coaches (the coaching universe isn't that large.) Yes some college coaches will come to final state games but agreed it's not for window shopping. They're checking out local players on their radar. Many schools just aren't a national draw and a lot of their recruiting is going to be local. Same when an assistant coach shoes up at a regular game - it's to see someone of interest. 9.9 times out of 10 that player plays club somewhere

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      There are multiple European leagues that pay tremendous salaries. Our lack of development is the reason our players can't break into the leagues over there.

      There is money to be had in soccer we just don't have the training for it. We are still bickering about the social benefits of high school soccer while overlooking the horrendous product it actually is.

      We also just don't fundamentally understand the development timeline and commitment it takes to compete in soccer at the professional/international level. We look at things like our American sports and our leagues and say, well Patrick Mahomes was a multisport athlete and he is in the Super Bowl. So the take away is playing different sports in 3 month chunks is our concept of development. And we apply that to soccer and wonder why we suck internationally.

      Then we hold up the WNT as an example of how we do it better. SMH
      Agreed 100% but most parents around here couldn't care less about what best for US soccer. Its about little Jane superstar getting her name in the paper for being a HS superstar.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Agreed 100% but most parents around here couldn't care less about what best for US soccer. Its about little Jane superstar getting her name in the paper for being a HS superstar.
        Ridiculous. When little Jane competes in high school level music competitions , or math competitions or art or science or robotics etc. etc. they are not ruining those disciplines because they don't focus on them exclusively for 10 months at a time.

        If there is some kid that want to do music all day every day go ahead. Bt it would be ridiculous for every kid to do that or for a dozen other kids to do that just so they could support the one music nut.. Same for soccer

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Ridiculous. When little Jane competes in high school level music competitions , or math competitions or art or science or robotics etc. etc. they are not ruining those disciplines because they don't focus on them exclusively for 10 months at a time.

          If there is some kid that want to do music all day every day go ahead. Bt it would be ridiculous for every kid to do that or for a dozen other kids to do that just so they could support the one music nut.. Same for soccer
          Spot on!

          Most parents realize the chances for the kid to play on the national team are pretty much zero, so why would they care what is best for the .1% of kids that could make the national team. Some of these soccer people are nuts!

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Agreed 100% but most parents around here couldn't care less about what best for US soccer. Its about little Jane superstar getting her name in the paper for being a HS superstar.
            BS, the real reason US soccer will never, ever, be able to consistently produce world class talent is because we choose as a nation not to write off kids lives at a young age as only being soccer players. Want to know why south american's are so good? It's because they leave their families at young ages to go live with and be raised by soccer academies. It's soccer 24/7 starting in their pre-teen years and when they don't make it, as the vast majority don't, they are discarded and left without an education to use for the rest of their lives.

            The only sport in which the US even comes close to doing that is gymnastics.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Spot on!

              Most parents realize the chances for the kid to play on the national team are pretty much zero, so why would they care what is best for the .1% of kids that could make the national team. Some of these soccer people are nuts!
              Exactly, why do they keep calling that little Japanese girl back, Sam Kreoger???

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Exactly, why do they keep calling that little Japanese girl back, Sam Kreoger???
                Because she is an outstanding soccer talent and her race and ethnicity has nothing to do with it.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Because she is an outstanding soccer talent and her race and ethnicity has nothing to do with it.
                  meh, I have seen her play, she is too small to represent the USA, and not pretty enough, IMO.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    meh, I have seen her play, she is too small to represent the USA, and not pretty enough, IMO.
                    Ok then work harder and take her spot on the team with all your amazing god given talent and your beauty routine. Good luck.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      BS, the real reason US soccer will never, ever, be able to consistently produce world class talent is because we choose as a nation not to write off kids lives at a young age as only being soccer players. Want to know why south american's are so good? It's because they leave their families at young ages to go live with and be raised by soccer academies. It's soccer 24/7 starting in their pre-teen years and when they don't make it, as the vast majority don't, they are discarded and left without an education to use for the rest of their lives.

                      The only sport in which the US even comes close to doing that is gymnastics.
                      That is just a gross exaggeration.

                      The difference is they understand the game and love playing the game. Just as we know our kids will never be pro baseball, basketball or fill in the American sport here. Because we culturally identify with our sports and we know it when we see it. With soccer, we have no experience in developing world class talent. We don’t know when we see it, we don’t cultivate it properly when it exists because we treat the sport like a hobby and apply our American sport values upon a sport that we fundamentally don’t understand.

                      If you were to develop as a golfer or tennis player you would train year round. Those sports demand year round attention to excel at a elite or high level. This doesn’t mean you can’t play other sports but soccer can’t be approached like our other sports as if it is a hobby.

                      Even how we alter the substitution rules fundamentally change the flow and essence of the game that the rest of the world plays. Because of our liberal sub rules we select athletes over soccer players, we play unhealthy compressed schedules that ruin how the game is meant to be played.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        BS, the real reason US soccer will never, ever, be able to consistently produce world class talent is because we choose as a nation not to write off kids lives at a young age as only being soccer players. Want to know why south american's are so good? It's because they leave their families at young ages to go live with and be raised by soccer academies. It's soccer 24/7 starting in their pre-teen years and when they don't make it, as the vast majority don't, they are discarded and left without an education to use for the rest of their lives.

                        The only sport in which the US even comes close to doing that is gymnastics.
                        Move to south america and send your kid to a 24 hour a day soccer academy if that is so great. Or start one here if you think you can find some customers. No one is stopping you.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          meh, I have seen her play, she is too small to represent the USA, and not pretty enough, IMO.
                          Coming from the dad with a little burrito who barely touches the field in HS ball...don't worry daddy, now that so many top players are graduating-your little burrito might see half a game :)

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                            You two are ignorant idiots. the soccer ball could care less what you look like or where your great grandmother was born. Do something effective with the ball to help win the game. period.

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                              Unless i am missing something, repealing the birth year mandate and going back to what we had prior, wouldn't that just mean that any player the had to move up can now, if they so choose, can go back to the team age group they were on, OR if they choose play up and stay on their current team. Don't think going back to the old way would be as hard or cause as many problems as it dis when it was switched to birth year

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                BS, the real reason US soccer will never, ever, be able to consistently produce world class talent is because we choose as a nation not to write off kids lives at a young age as only being soccer players. Want to know why south american's are so good? It's because they leave their families at young ages to go live with and be raised by soccer academies. It's soccer 24/7 starting in their pre-teen years and when they don't make it, as the vast majority don't, they are discarded and left without an education to use for the rest of their lives.

                                The only sport in which the US even comes close to doing that is gymnastics.
                                You are spot on. I have 3 MLS clubs trying to get me to commit my son to a “pro path” with them.
                                NO WAY IN HELL!

                                He has one childhood. He will go to college and get a degree. He needs a career opportunity outside of soccer that only a higher education will afford him.

                                If he wants to try and make a go of playing professionally after college, I will support that for a couple of years to see how it goes. When that does not work out, he has a degree, and can start a career.

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