ECNL vs Non-ECNL

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So your assumption is that every college Senior in 2014 on a top 25 team played on one of the 40 orginal ECNL clubs in 2010?

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Your logic is flawed as well. 1). The data is checked withy the coaches at the destination college for accuracy 2) if your club has ECNL and you are good enough to be at a top program the vast majority of those players (if not all) are on the top ECNL team 3) see number 2, same point 4) are you saying these schools aren't top programs - doesn't matter they are all D1.

Point is you can always spin facts. Facts are if you are good you will be found and ECNL can certainly help (but not a necessity).

The problem with the OP is the use of the variables in the data (years 2015 and 2016) , and the resulting numbers of claimed commitments for those years. Using that data only reflects projections of what might be. There is no accuracy in stating that any of these schools roster more ecnl players versus non-ecnl players for those years because they have not done so yet. You need data of current and past rosters, otherwise, you are only projecting numbers and there isn't much validity or reality in it.

Sort of like predicting what the economy is going to do over the next 5 years. There are many factors that tell us one thing is going to happen, but in reality, it can and will morph into something we may never have predicted.

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The problem with the OP is the use of the variables in the data (years 2015 and 2016) , and the resulting numbers of claimed commitments for those years. Using that data only reflects projections of what might be. There is no accuracy in stating that any of these schools roster more ecnl players versus non-ecnl players for those years because they have not done so yet. You need data of current and past rosters, otherwise, you are only projecting numbers and there isn't much validity or reality in it.

Sort of like predicting what the economy is going to do over the next 5 years. There are many factors that tell us one thing is going to happen, but in reality, it can and will morph into something we may never have predicted.

Except that the players have already verbally committed to the school. Can they change? Of course, but its the best predictor we have now. Is your premise that ECNL is not effective at putting girls in top colleges? To not agree with his conclusions you must have another. Is it that non ECNL clubs have an advantage? Pure common sense would prove you wrong. Simply talk to coaches, or go by one of the ECNL showcases and observe the number of recruitors are there and then compare to ANY other non-ECNL event.

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Those FKK girls were all ECNL when they verbally committed at U17. A few signed later w/ FKK but most were recruited during their ECNL year.

OCYS trying to pee on them. Why don't we simply ask the players who they credit with helping them get committed then signed? Who was at their schools on NLI Day?

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ECNL is great! The girls have a great experience participating in that league. Yes, it is a fantastic avenue for girls to be seen by college coaches, but it's not the only way. If your child is a good player, college coaches will find her. This bickering back and forth about FKK signing or OC signing is irrelevant! OC is a new club it will take time for it to develop what FKK, or rather, CFK, has been able to do. We can't count the girls who spent one year at OC and then went back to FKK/CFK. This year's u14 girls will be interesting to track and give a true testament to OC's growth as a club.

OC doesn't want a true accounting. it needs to claim others' accomplishments to have any credibility at all.

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Talking-soccer if full of ECNL talk. Two clubs garner massive attention, there's a reason for that. ECNL scares the sh!t out of every other club. ECNL is that good, and your coach, DOC, BOD know it.

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Talking-soccer if full of ECNL talk. Two clubs garner massive attention, there's a reason for that. ECNL scares the sh!t out of every other club. ECNL is that good, and your coach, DOC, BOD know it.

One club- WFF- earned ECNL and has done well in its first two seasons. The other did not, and has attracted attention for the opposite reasons.

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One club- WFF- earned ECNL and has done well in its first two seasons. The other did not, and has attracted attention for the opposite reasons.

FKK troll is back. You guys blew it. It's okay. You seem to be doing well.

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Apples to apples. ECNL Finals 72 coaches, USYS National Championship 43. The tournaments are being played at the same time.

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Apples to apples. ECNL Finals 72 coaches, USYS National Championship 43. The tournaments are being played at the same time.

Where is ecnl schedule posted

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Where is ecnl schedule posted

Google ECNL

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Last year's U14 and this year's U14 will be a good gauge for both OCY & WFF. I do agree that there are multiple avenues to attract coaches/universities but ultimately it's the players skills and work ethic that sells the player. If ECNL is within manageable distance and cost it may be worth giving a shot.

I believe the competitiveness of OCYS & WFF will benefit both as these girls get older. More players from central Florida will gravitate to OCYS and players from western Florida to WFF. This until more ECNL clubs are added to the state, if any.

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Last year's U14 and this year's U14 will be a good gauge for both OCY & WFF. I do agree that there are multiple avenues to attract coaches/universities but ultimately it's the players skills and work ethic that sells the player. If ECNL is within manageable distance and cost it may be worth giving a shot.

I believe the competitiveness of OCYS & WFF will benefit both as these girls get older. More players from central Florida will gravitate to OCYS and players from western Florida to WFF. This until more ECNL clubs are added to the state, if any.

Unless they are going to have multiple teams in each age group.. you are only talking 20-22 girls per age group Per club and there are only two clubs. The numbers are small. Great players have to play somewhere else as these club's B teams do not hold up whatsoever to the other clubs A teams. Everyone knows this.

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Fkk had a nice year give them credit. I think OC has grabbed tremndous talent on the girls and boys side and control it now. Is their current Ecnl teams the best in CF vs any non Ecnl? Yes by far. I would say now they are. Defintely not last year. Ecnl girls and boys will control the talent pool in CF. Fkk will be a good non ecnl team girls not so confident about the boys. They are not better than the current Ecnl teams now but will still be decent. This is no put down to any team so save it. Now that much talent combined can also work against a team to so if OC can sort it out wisely it will probably be a rewarding year for them if not then we all will see. If im scouting which I am not lets be clear. Im watching Ecnl girls and boys this year as for last year I think I would have bypassed to a burger joint.

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Talking-soccer if full of ECNL talk. Two clubs garner massive attention, there's a reason for that. ECNL scares the sh!t out of every other club. ECNL is that good, and your coach, DOC, BOD know it.

I would tend to agree.