Stop burning out kids for profit!

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We need to rethink our approach again.

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We need to rethink our approach again.

It’s not about rethinking. It’s about fundamental flaws in the system money, got soccer rankings, crazy parents. It just is what it is.

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We need to rethink our approach again.

No, YOU need to rethink your approach. Don’t have your kid go to 3x trainings per week, don’t sling them all over the country to every tournament your club recommends, quit planting seeds of false dreams of being a pro/national/d1 player. Players burn out because of their parents, not due to too many touches. It’s the idiots on TS that cause the burnout. Clubs offer a service, you are the customer that has a choice.

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We need to rethink our approach again.

I agree, we can come up with a more efficient approach to burning them out.

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We need to rethink our approach again.

Tell me more. I’ve been burning my kids for years now. School helped as well. No profit so far. What am I doing wrong?

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No, YOU need to rethink your approach. Don’t have your kid go to 3x trainings per week, don’t sling them all over the country to every tournament your club recommends, quit planting seeds of false dreams of being a pro/national/d1 player. Players burn out because of their parents, not due to too many touches. It’s the idiots on TS that cause the burnout. Clubs offer a service, you are the customer that has a choice.

100% truth. Clubs have gone to great effort to build and sell the system they're supplying to parents, but parents are the deman in this equation, they believe they need to buy what's being sold or the alternatives aren't good enough and they'll fall behind and lose out. You won't hear any admission of this motivation, instead you'll hear an individual suggest it's their business to do what they want, so what, as if they're not contributing to what's been built and its many flaws. But here we are, it is what it is and it's never going to get the reform it needs, the best indicator being the moment USSF decided its priority was to jump in and get their piece of the action. This fall we're going to have DA and an expanded ECNL and a bunch of parents feeling really special in spite of the worst dilution elite soccer has ever seen.

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100% truth. Clubs have gone to great effort to build and sell the system they're supplying to parents, but parents are the deman in this equation, they believe they need to buy what's being sold or the alternatives aren't good enough and they'll fall behind and lose out. You won't hear any admission of this motivation, instead you'll hear an individual suggest it's their business to do what they want, so what, as if they're not contributing to what's been built and its many flaws. But here we are, it is what it is and it's never going to get the reform it needs, the best indicator being the moment USSF decided its priority was to jump in and get their piece of the action. This fall we're going to have DA and an expanded ECNL and a bunch of parents feeling really special in spite of the worst dilution elite soccer has ever seen.

its funny, very few seem to talk about the ECNL dilution. I feel the tipping point is enough teams so every parent can say their kid is the "best" at one ;)

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its funny, very few seem to talk about the ECNL dilution. I feel the tipping point is enough teams so every parent can say their kid is the "best" at one ;)

Lot talk about the ecnl dilution, gda dilution, etc. Is what it is..

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We need to rethink our approach again.

Not going to happen.

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Not going to happen.

I agree it won't change - the money train left the station a long time ago. There will always be parents willing to pay for "the best" whatever, even when they know it's mostly all smoke and mirrors.

The only way it changes is if the leagues and club decide that changes in the system benefit THEM. They don't care about how it benefits the consumer.

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I agree it won't change - the money train left the station a long time ago. There will always be parents willing to pay for "the best" whatever, even when they know it's mostly all smoke and mirrors.

The only way it changes is if the leagues and club decide that changes in the system benefit THEM. They don't care about how it benefits the consumer.

Every business has certain percentage of unhappy customers . That’s normal. What is the average percentage of unhappy customers per business?

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I agree it won't change - the money train left the station a long time ago. There will always be parents willing to pay for "the best" whatever, even when they know it's mostly all smoke and mirrors.

The only way it changes is if the leagues and club decide that changes in the system benefit THEM. They don't care about how it benefits the consumer.

Exactly right.

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Every business has certain percentage of unhappy customers . That’s normal. What is the average percentage of unhappy customers per business?

You're asking the wrong question. Happy and unhappy customers is a given. It isn't even significant whether a certain portion of pay-to-play parents are happy or unhappy, whatever that means. WHY parents are happy and unhappy is the significant and revealing answer to why pay-to-play has become what it has.

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Thought this was a thread about sweat shops from the 20's and forced child labor.

Didn't realize this was about a voluntary recreational activity that one can walk away from at any time should they so desire....

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Thought this was a thread about sweat shops from the 20's and forced child labor.

Didn't realize this was about a voluntary recreational activity that one can walk away from at any time should they so desire....

Nailed it!