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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    There is a Yale women's soccer coach involved as well as an informant. They are looking into the not for profits as well, probably clubs are next if not already being investigated.
    It's not limited to soccer. It's all sports. They are cracking the industry that is the drug for the affluent, elite sports.
    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Get your popcorn people, the scrutiny of the kids coming in will be crazy. You had better be academically and athletically qualified.
    And then there's the suit against Harvard that is likely to affect many elite colleges' admission policies.

    https://www.npr.org/2018/11/02/66073...-far-from-over

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      #17
      It gets even dirtier and involves many sports and schools, but it seems to be sports that fly under the radar (vs say basketball or football). the ring leader set up a fake nonprofit to run the cash through it and pay off people.

      https://www.kvrr.com/2019/03/12/50-c...two-actresses/

      On a call with one parent, prosecutors said, Singer described the business simply: “What we do is help the wealthiest families in the US get their kids into school… my families want a guarantee.”

      Singer would help his clients’ children by having another individual take SAT or ACT tests on behalf of the students, officials said. Parents would allegedly pay up to $75,000 for each test and wire money to “charitable accounts.”

      “Singer used the purported charitable donations from parents, at least in part, to bribe two SAT and ACT test administrators,” court documents stated.

      Parents would take their children to therapists paid by Singer to receive notes saying the prospective students required extra time to take the standardized tests.

      Among the college coaches involved in the alleged scheme was Rudy Meredith, the former head women’s soccer coach at Yale, and John Vandemoer, the sailing coach at Stanford University.

      For one applicant, Meredith — who resigned from his position in November — created a fake athletic profile and said the person was a recruit for the Yale women’s soccer team even though the applicant “did not play competitive soccer.”

      Singer gave Meredith $400,000 after the student was admitted to Yale, court documents stated.

      A Georgetown tennis coach received bribe money between 2012 and 2018 from Singer that amounted to more than $2.7 million, according to the documents.

      “In exchange for the bribes, the Georgetown coach designated approximately 12 applicants as recruits for the Georgetown tennis team, including some who did not play tennis competitively, thereby facilitating their admission to the university,” documents read.

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        #18
        WaPo said it was the Yale HC who turned informant but they seemed to have stumbled on it accidentally. Thirty three parents are charged. It seems the kids and school admissions personnel were not, but it also says investigations are ongoing. Not only were coaches bribed but SAT and ACT officials, as well as doctors to say students had learning disabilities so they'd get more time for testing (lots of people use this tactic). In a world of constant crazy this is one I didn't see coming.

        "The massive, nationwide scheme was discovered accidentally by the FBI — while working an unrelated undercover operation, officials said. That tip led to a sprawling, nationwide corruption probe.

        “These parents are a catalogue of wealth and privilege,” said Lelling. “This case is about the widening corruption of elite college admissions through the steady application of wealth combined with fraud. There can be no separate college admission system for the wealthy, and I’ll add there will not be a separate criminal justice system either.” None of the students were charged because prosecutors said their parents were the scheme’s principal actors.

        One of the cooperating witnesses, according to court documents, is a former head coach of Yale’s women’s soccer team, who pleaded guilty in the case nearly a year ago and has since been helping FBI agents gather evidence. That coach, who was not identified by name, allegedly took a $400,000 bribe to place a student on her team roster, help get her into the school, even though that student did not play competitive soccer, officials said. That student’s parents paid $1.2 million in bribes, officials said.

        Some of the defendants are accused of bribing college entrance exam administrators to facilitate cheating — by having a smarter student take the test, providing students with answers to exams or correcting their answers after they had completed the exams, according to the criminal complaint filed in federal court.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.f168907fdddd

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          WaPo said it was the Yale HC who turned informant but they seemed to have stumbled on it accidentally. Thirty three parents are charged. It seems the kids and school admissions personnel were not, but it also says investigations are ongoing. Not only were coaches bribed but SAT and ACT officials, as well as doctors to say students had learning disabilities so they'd get more time for testing (lots of people use this tactic). In a world of constant crazy this is one I didn't see coming.

          "The massive, nationwide scheme was discovered accidentally by the FBI — while working an unrelated undercover operation, officials said. That tip led to a sprawling, nationwide corruption probe.

          “These parents are a catalogue of wealth and privilege,” said Lelling. “This case is about the widening corruption of elite college admissions through the steady application of wealth combined with fraud. There can be no separate college admission system for the wealthy, and I’ll add there will not be a separate criminal justice system either.” None of the students were charged because prosecutors said their parents were the scheme’s principal actors.

          One of the cooperating witnesses, according to court documents, is a former head coach of Yale’s women’s soccer team, who pleaded guilty in the case nearly a year ago and has since been helping FBI agents gather evidence. That coach, who was not identified by name, allegedly took a $400,000 bribe to place a student on her team roster, help get her into the school, even though that student did not play competitive soccer, officials said. That student’s parents paid $1.2 million in bribes, officials said.

          Some of the defendants are accused of bribing college entrance exam administrators to facilitate cheating — by having a smarter student take the test, providing students with answers to exams or correcting their answers after they had completed the exams, according to the criminal complaint filed in federal court.

          https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.f168907fdddd
          ...."Yale’s women’s soccer team, who pleaded guilty in the case nearly a year ago and has since been helping FBI agents gather evidence. That coach, who was not identified by name, allegedly took a $400,000 bribe to place a student on HER team roster,..."

          Yale coach that, allegedly, took bribe and turned informant is a female according to the way this article is written. "...to place a student on HER team roster,..."

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            There is a Yale women's soccer coach involved as well as an informant. They are looking into the not for profits as well, probably clubs are next if not already being investigated.
            It's not limited to soccer. It's all sports. They are cracking the industry that is the drug for the affluent, elite sports.
            This is just the tip of the iceberg. Get your popcorn people, the scrutiny of the kids coming in will be crazy. You had better be academically and athletically qualified.
            I see Harvard mentioned with the guy from Lynnfield. Doesn't say the sport.

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              #21
              $400,000? Isn't that the cost of the education alone? That's just to get in, not the cost of the education. This is crazy. Was the kid not a Yale level soccer player or not a Yale level student or both.

              Plus imagine the amount of money the parent would be donating or has been donating since.

              It is outrageous the type of clout sports carries over academics.

              It's astounding.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                $400,000? Isn't that the cost of the education alone? That's just to get in, not the cost of the education. This is crazy. Was the kid not a Yale level soccer player or not a Yale level student or both.

                Plus imagine the amount of money the parent would be donating or has been donating since.

                It is outrageous the type of clout sports carries over academics.

                It's astounding.
                Welcome to reality. Don't be naive to believe this is limited to just sports. The investigation simply focused on that angle. I worked with a guy whose mother paid a consultant well over 6 figures to ensure his kid's admission into Princeton, even though the kid is a 3rd generation legacy, went to right prep school and had close to a perfect SAT score.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Welcome to reality. Don't be naive to believe this is limited to just sports. The investigation simply focused on that angle. I worked with a guy whose mother paid a consultant well over 6 figures to ensure his kid's admission into Princeton, even though the kid is a 3rd generation legacy, went to right prep school and had close to a perfect SAT score.
                  Yes. It's still a caste system out there.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    There is a Yale women's soccer coach involved as well as an informant. They are looking into the not for profits as well, probably clubs are next if not already being investigated.
                    It's not limited to soccer. It's all sports. They are cracking the industry that is the drug for the affluent, elite sports.
                    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Get your popcorn people, the scrutiny of the kids coming in will be crazy. You had better be academically and athletically qualified.
                    I thought that the sudden resignation of Yale's Women's Soccer Coach seemed a little odd. He seemed to be doing alright there. Now it adds up.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      $400,000? Isn't that the cost of the education alone? That's just to get in, not the cost of the education. This is crazy. Was the kid not a Yale level soccer player or not a Yale level student or both.

                      Plus imagine the amount of money the parent would be donating or has been donating since.

                      It is outrageous the type of clout sports carries over academics.

                      It's astounding.
                      None of these kids were athletes. They just bribed coaches to create a fake athlete profile, to slip kid through admissions that way. My guess is no matter if the parents could pay tuition, their kid could not get into the schools without the payoff.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        None of these kids were athletes. They just bribed coaches to create a fake athlete profile, to slip kid through admissions that way. My guess is no matter if the parents could pay tuition, their kid could not get into the schools without the payoff.
                        That's exactly what happened. They were students that couldn't get in with their own grades and test scores (some of them had those faked too). With a different admissions standard for athletes it was easier to slip kids in that way than straight through the admissions office.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          $400,000? Isn't that the cost of the education alone? That's just to get in, not the cost of the education. This is crazy. Was the kid not a Yale level soccer player or not a Yale level student or both.

                          Plus imagine the amount of money the parent would be donating or has been donating since.

                          It is outrageous the type of clout sports carries over academics.

                          It's astounding.
                          $400,000 is less than Jared's dad paid for him to get into Harvard. Just sayin ;)

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            None of these kids were athletes. They just bribed coaches to create a fake athlete profile, to slip kid through admissions that way. My guess is no matter if the parents could pay tuition, their kid could not get into the schools without the payoff.
                            https://www.apnews.com/0c37caf26dd34260a2e7f7ab0fa4ce55

                            Looks like a UCLA soccer coach is involved too.

                            Huffman’s daughter got into school claiming to be a crew athlete, but she never rowed crew competitively. How do you fake being a rower? Are there subs in rowing who don’t ever show up down at the river? Incredible!!!

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              None of these kids were athletes. They just bribed coaches to create a fake athlete profile, to slip kid through admissions that way. My guess is no matter if the parents could pay tuition, their kid could not get into the schools without the payoff.
                              Of course, but they used an athletic profile, not a music, band, drama club or others. Athletics.
                              It shows the clout athletics has in getting a kid into a college and how little attention is paid to it through the admissions office. And this isn't baseball, basketball, the money sports, it's women's soccer at Yale.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                https://www.apnews.com/0c37caf26dd34260a2e7f7ab0fa4ce55

                                Looks like a UCLA soccer coach is involved too.

                                Huffman’s daughter got into school claiming to be a crew athlete, but she never rowed crew competitively. How do you fake being a rower? Are there subs in rowing who don’t ever show up down at the river? Incredible!!!
                                That is one thing that I'm trying to wrap my head around - the case revolves around bribed coaches creating fake athletes (real students, but not actual athletes) to get them through the application process. Then I'm assuming the students just don't participate. There obviously is no athletic money or or NLI involved, but simply a helping hand to get the admit then "poof" Buffy "de-commits" off the tennis team. They were smart to not go after big name sports - if you were trying to get a kid in on the Duke basketball team that would be a high profile thing. No one is watching crew or tennis or even women's soccer.

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