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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postno one is making the case that NWSL salaries should equal MLS. You are still seem to be arguing one side of the case as opposed to appreciating what THEY will argue.
The both work for USSF. they both play games. They want to be paid the same for doing that job. Thats it. If they have a friendly and play in front of 50k then why should they earn less than the men who play in front of 50k ?
Forget TV revenues. The deal is bundled under the crest so you cannot seperate it.
Forget WC or Olympic bonus from FIFA or CONCACAF or OLY, thats not being debated here. If the USSF give a bonus to the team for winning, then the women will say it should be the same as the job is the same.
Thats the case.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDo they both sell to the same group? Is the Enterprise sales rep in a better location, gets better cars, has better support? It's easier to sell in an environment that has more support from the company.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDo they both sell to the same group? Is the Enterprise sales rep in a better location, gets better cars, has better support? It's easier to sell in an environment that has more support from the company.
A small-business sales rep can knock the socks off their quota, but they will never be able to compete in an Enterprise arena. The women's game, and I do say this with regret, won't be able to consistently compete for the dollars needed to be sustainable.
Think of it this way. If there were no MNT, no MLS, no men's team at all, the women would still win, but they won't make anymore. The men are more likely to stand on their own than the women.
And, to be clear, I am a fan of the women's game. Just economic realities at play.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFifa gives 9 million dollar bonus to mens WC teams, only 2 million for womens WC teams.
This is a USSF issue, not a global soccer revenue issue or an NWSL issue
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Postcorrect. that is not the case being made. those talking about revenue are off base. The WNT bare going to argue that they generate as much revenue as the men do for the USSF and would generate more if given the same opportunities.
This is a USSF issue, not a global soccer revenue issue or an NWSL issue
The only times the women have matched or exceeded the men in revenue is when either the men failed to make the world cup and didn't win that bonus or when the women chose to play far more games such as going on the shebelieves tour.
That all being said I think that the women are making a mistake here. They get a guaranteed salary, get their club salaries paid, have paid leave for injury and pregnancy and other benefits. The men are entirely pay for play. They only get paid for games played, have no job security, no benefits, etc. Sure, the regulars that make every game make more money but when they get injured or don't get called up, they don't get paid a penny.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe men generate more revenue per game by far. So same opportunity to same opportunity, men draw in far more money.
The only times the women have matched or exceeded the men in revenue is when either the men failed to make the world cup and didn't win that bonus or when the women chose to play far more games such as going on the shebelieves tour.
That all being said I think that the women are making a mistake here. They get a guaranteed salary, get their club salaries paid, have paid leave for injury and pregnancy and other benefits. The men are entirely pay for play. They only get paid for games played, have no job security, no benefits, etc. Sure, the regulars that make every game make more money but when they get injured or don't get called up, they don't get paid a penny.
Didn't see a LUNA/Cliff bar poster during the recent broadcast. They should be all over the place.
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Good game USWNT vs. Belgium. Carly Lloyd had a nice showing. Good to see her back in the lineup even though it was Belgium. Nice honoring of the '99ers. Well done.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe men generate more revenue per game by far. So same opportunity to same opportunity, men draw in far more money.
The only times the women have matched or exceeded the men in revenue is when either the men failed to make the world cup and didn't win that bonus or when the women chose to play far more games such as going on the shebelieves tour.
That all being said I think that the women are making a mistake here. They get a guaranteed salary, get their club salaries paid, have paid leave for injury and pregnancy and other benefits. The men are entirely pay for play. They only get paid for games played, have no job security, no benefits, etc. Sure, the regulars that make every game make more money but when they get injured or don't get called up, they don't get paid a penny.
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Women signed a labor contract in 2017 to run through 2021.
Does equal pay for equal work apply to entirely different contract structures?
I realize equal pay works in court of public opinion, but half was through contract, do the women have a legal basis to complain?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWomen signed a labor contract in 2017 to run through 2021.
Does equal pay for equal work apply to entirely different contract structures?
I realize equal pay works in court of public opinion, but half was through contract, do the women have a legal basis to complain?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostStop televising women's soccer and see how many complaints you get. No one cares. they should be greatfull for any coin they get now. Probably overpaid when it come down to it.
I guess you won't be tuning in for the upcoming world cup? I know many that will be. Go ahead, watch your ultimate Frisbee instead.
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