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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostBut that it not fair to a player that paid for a full season. You had all year to prove to the player that there is no reason to go anywhere else and they failed.
You can't punish a child for this.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIn theory, yes. Especially if you're dealing with rational, caring adults. Some coaches aren't anything close to that. It seems the coach has made his position very clear. There's something to be said about still going and rising above the toddler behavior - and hoping the coach does the right thing - but it's also very possible the kid will sit the entire weekend. I agree with another poster that you should go to the club. There's nothing to lose at this point and if his boss puts pressure on him to play your kid to what he should for SHOWCASE then he may cave in to keep his job. Face it, if he pulls a di** move all the other families will see it and it won't reflect well on him or the club.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostReality check, you are not as important to the club as you think you are (no single player is btw), and they are already looking towards next year. You want to leave the club, but you also want that club to showcase your kid and play them? Kind of like, I want to leave my job, but I want the bonus I am owed in a few weeks, but to get the bonus, I have to still be employed? The coach likely sees this and would rather give the time to players who are going to be there next year. I think the tryout date has both the club and the players in an awkward situation.
The player expects to be showcased for the full season the same why she was showcased the entire year unless the performance has changed.
This is a strong arm tactic by a very concerned coach or club.
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I wasn't there but I would bet large sums of money that this wasn't handled as delicately or as smartly as it should have been. Coaches, as much as we'd like for them to be professional, are also human. I'm sure he was offended. Speaking from both sides of this issue. I am a coach and I have a daughter who is good enough to be entertaining the ECNL route. I would and would expect others to approach this as such...
Coach X, I am going to tryout for and ECNL team. I like you and I like our team but ECNL is going to allow me to challenge myself against consistently higher caliber competition, step outside my comfort zone, travel, be exposed to a greater number of college coaches, etc... Our current team isn't going to afford me those options, at least not to the extent that ECNL will. Again, I really like you as a coach and I like our team and if I don't make ECNL I'll be back happily but this is an opportunity that I will regret not at least taking a shot at. I hope you can understand where I'm coming from.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI wasn't there but I would bet large sums of money that this wasn't handled as delicately or as smartly as it should have been. Coaches, as much as we'd like for them to be professional, are also human. I'm sure he was offended. Speaking from both sides of this issue. I am a coach and I have a daughter who is good enough to be entertaining the ECNL route. I would and would expect others to approach this as such...
Coach X, I am going to tryout for and ECNL team. I like you and I like our team but ECNL is going to allow me to challenge myself against consistently higher caliber competition, step outside my comfort zone, travel, be exposed to a greater number of college coaches, etc... Our current team isn't going to afford me those options, at least not to the extent that ECNL will. Again, I really like you as a coach and I like our team and if I don't make ECNL I'll be back happily but this is an opportunity that I will regret not at least taking a shot at. I hope you can understand where I'm coming from.
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Unless the coach is making offers to current players ahead of tryouts then they have no right to enforce such a threat regardless of a contract.
If the coach wants you on the team next year then he should put that offer out to the player before tryouts. You can't have it both ways as a coach. If you want the player, let the player know and then the player can decide. That way, you can have tryouts knowing exactly what holes you need to fill.
The whole tryout season dance is one of insecurity by both parents and coaches.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSo, without knowing that anyone specifically was going to tryout, he just threatened anyone who might?
As you can imagine many players are concerned and parents very upset.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat is correct. If you missed practice he would know you are trying out somewhere else and remove you from future events because he only wants players committed to the team.
As you can imagine many players are concerned and parents very upset.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostUnless the coach is making offers to current players ahead of tryouts then they have no right to enforce such a threat regardless of a contract.
If the coach wants you on the team next year then he should put that offer out to the player before tryouts. You can't have it both ways as a coach. If you want the player, let the player know and then the player can decide. That way, you can have tryouts knowing exactly what holes you need to fill.
The whole tryout season dance is one of insecurity by both parents and coaches.
Laura
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThat is correct. If you missed practice he would know you are trying out somewhere else and remove you from future events because he only wants players committed to the team.
As you can imagine many players are concerned and parents very upset.
If you are committed to staying but the coach has you as a bubble, then that should be communicated so that you are free to attend tryouts with both clubs.
Again, all of this can be solved with a coach communicating their intentions before "tryouts".
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