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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    And that means jack sh1t. Income has nothing to do with performance on the field and HS soccer sucks.
    Can you read? The poster said it means a more diverse team, not necessarily a higher performance team but not necessarily lower performance team either. Jack **** to you, valuable to others. Such is life.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      HS is still crappy soccer. I am also pretty certain all of the GDA and ECNL clubs help out families in need.

      Why stop with ECNL and GDA? What about the clubs who offer nothing in terms of exposure but can cost more than the ECNL and GDA clubs ?
      false

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered221986 View Post
        false
        I know for fact in Pennsylvania that PF and FCB offer assistance. Cant speak to FCD or PAC. In Jersey, PDA, Cedar Stars and SJEB Rush will help out. Many I just listed will also pick up the bill regardless of need if your kid is good enough. Also, there are non GDA and ECNL clubs who do the same.

        To say "false" without really knowing is a disservice to everyone who comes here hoping to find useful info.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          I know for fact in Pennsylvania that PF and FCB offer assistance. Cant speak to FCD or PAC. In Jersey, PDA, Cedar Stars and SJEB Rush will help out. Many I just listed will also pick up the bill regardless of need if your kid is good enough. Also, there are non GDA and ECNL clubs who do the same.

          To say "false" without really knowing is a disservice to everyone who comes here hoping to find useful info.
          Travel time and costs are more exclusionary then then the fees. Fees are not biggest problem.

          But anyway, if you trying to argue that high level girls club soccer is not completely dominated by a certain demographic you are an oblivious fool. Wake up.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Travel time and costs are more exclusionary then then the fees. Fees are not biggest problem.

            But anyway, if you trying to argue that high level girls club soccer is not completely dominated by a certain demographic you are an oblivious fool. Wake up.
            The demographics are a different topic all together and probably deserves its own thread. The DA and ECNL clubs can only pick teams based on who shows up. They are not to blame.

            As far as fees incl. travel expenses if your kid is good enough they will find a way to make it work.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The demographics are a different topic all together and probably deserves its own thread. The DA and ECNL clubs can only pick teams based on who shows up. They are not to blame.

              As far as fees incl. travel expenses if your kid is good enough they will find a way to make it work.
              HS sports can provide an experience for players on a more diverse team outside of the exclusionary club soccer bubble. That's it. No one has to value that or sign up. But it still exists for those interested.

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I know for fact in Pennsylvania that PF and FCB offer assistance. Cant speak to FCD or PAC. In Jersey, PDA, Cedar Stars and SJEB Rush will help out. Many I just listed will also pick up the bill regardless of need if your kid is good enough. Also, there are non GDA and ECNL clubs who do the same.

                To say "false" without really knowing is a disservice to everyone who comes here hoping to find useful info.
                Not all the ECNL programs offer help. PF offers little to nothing for their GDA teams and Continental is the same for ECNL. It's all about the money. I can see FCB trying to help.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Can you read? The poster said it means a more diverse team, not necessarily a higher performance team but not necessarily lower performance team either. Jack **** to you, valuable to others. Such is life.
                  Yo d-bag, can you read? It clearly states "more diverse income demographic".

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Stars and PDA are probably the only capable clubs in R1 and they chose to go all in with ECNL for financial reasons.

                    As for HS soccer...
                    What good does it do an ECNL or GDA type player to play JV or get limited varsity time as a Frosh? Wouldn't that kid be better served in the club environment until they are ready to contribute meaningful minutes each and every game? Assuming its a good club environment and not a local glorified rec team.
                    Sure, if you mean financial reasons that they are able to dictate the finances surrounding ECNL. Then yes. Stars and PDA went all in ECNL because they are on the Board of Directors and had control. USSF would not give it to them in GDA. They are back in control. That is what is scary about ECNL. Those with a direct interest on a few clubs run the show. And those clubs get all the advantages including games (if it snowed in NJ, PDA games cancelled and rescheduled until early June. If it snowed in CT, games still continued.)

                    Agree about the HS choice. Some club coaches complain that it takes a few months to correct the bad high school habits.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      The demographics are a different topic all together and probably deserves its own thread. The DA and ECNL clubs can only pick teams based on who shows up. They are not to blame.

                      As far as fees incl. travel expenses if your kid is good enough they will find a way to make it work.
                      Do you really think it's only who shows up in the mix? Clubs pick booster kids too. That is not league specific. It's all of them. So it's not always based on talent about who shows up. It's who you know that shows up sometimes too.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Yo d-bag, can you read? It clearly states "more diverse income demographic".
                        High level girls club soccer is not a diverse income demographic whether you can read or not. If you are arguing that it is not you are not paying attention. Period.

                        This in a nonsense argument. If you are unable to see this for yourself, google it and you can find dozens and dozens of sources that will all discuss it.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          HS sports can provide an experience for players on a more diverse team outside of the exclusionary club soccer bubble. That's it. No one has to value that or sign up. But it still exists for those interested.
                          I look at it a bit differently. We live in a well-off town (for over 4 decades...before it was well-off...) and have our own HS now. We used to get shipped to the neighboring city.

                          We've lost all of our diversity, both from an racial perspective, but also from an economic perspective. My D likes her club because it's not all the super rich (despite the characterizations) and meets kids of all races that she doesn't get in her own town.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Sure, if you mean financial reasons that they are able to dictate the finances surrounding ECNL. Then yes. Stars and PDA went all in ECNL because they are on the Board of Directors and had control. USSF would not give it to them in GDA. They are back in control. That is what is scary about ECNL. Those with a direct interest on a few clubs run the show. And those clubs get all the advantages including games (if it snowed in NJ, PDA games cancelled and rescheduled until early June. If it snowed in CT, games still continued.)

                            Agree about the HS choice. Some club coaches complain that it takes a few months to correct the bad high school habits.

                            100% spot on.

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                              #29
                              So ECNL doesn't sound ideal unless you one of their preferred clubs. Talk on other PA blogs about other PA teams looking to join. Maybe stay away from it.

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                                #30
                                Does all ECNL teams pay the same amount? or different clubs charge diff amounts?

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