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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Schools, especially colleges, will also require it - not just for staff but students.
    On the state school form I have my doctor complete it and mail it back to me to submit to the school. I also use the form for summer camp etc. When the doctor mails it back to me, I can make any changes I want on the form and the doctor and school would be none the wiser. I can write in a vaccine date. The school does not follow up with the doctors. Hell, I could just complete the whole form and sign for the doctor and they would not know.
    Given that the vaccine will likely become a yearly or regular item like a flu shot, that would make tracking it even more cumbersome and will result in taking your word for it.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      If by above the fray, you mean ignore it, then you are spot on with respect to obama on racial injustice and the wealth gap. He will be looked upon by historians as deaf and blind to the two greatest threats to the American way of life since the fall of the wall. Having a beer with one cop and one professor is not action or remaining above the fray. Biden was there for the photo op as well...anything for a free beer
      They are different ways to achieve change. Watch the “The Butler” on Netflix; it’s a true-story drama about a butler that served in the White House for seven Presidents. You will see the two extremes for how to influence change in race relations. Obama would have been rejected if he was too passionate focused on this issue versus recovering from the Great Recession.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        On the state school form I have my doctor complete it and mail it back to me to submit to the school. I also use the form for summer camp etc. When the doctor mails it back to me, I can make any changes I want on the form and the doctor and school would be none the wiser. I can write in a vaccine date. The school does not follow up with the doctors. Hell, I could just complete the whole form and sign for the doctor and they would not know.
        Given that the vaccine will likely become a yearly or regular item like a flu shot, that would make tracking it even more cumbersome and will result in taking your word for it.
        You will find this will no longer work. Airlines and health insurers are developing digital passports for vaccinations. A barcode based system that offers privacy while offering access to history of specific vaccinations being screened for. Enjoy sitting at home. This will happen and happen quick because gyms, movie theaters, bars, and large sports venues all are dying to open and a simple smartphone based system will work to offer a path toward normalcy.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          They are different ways to achieve change. Watch the “The Butler” on Netflix; it’s a true-story drama about a butler that served in the White House for seven Presidents. You will see the two extremes for how to influence change in race relations. Obama would have been rejected if he was too passionate focused on this issue versus recovering from the Great Recession.
          great recession? you mean the steepest one in history...the one Trump recovered from in record time? Or that long drawn out one that we had because obama was incompetent, even with a super majority in congress for his first two years. After that is was all about running again and covering up Solyndra, Benghazi and fast and furious.

          You remember Solyndra right...aka the green new deal before there was a green new deal. The solar energy company that received $530 million of taxpayer handouts and was touted many times by Obama, and Vice President Joe Biden, as the next big thing in green energy. It never produced any energy to speak of before it went bankrupt.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            great recession? you mean the steepest one in history...the one Trump recovered from in record time? Or that long drawn out one that we had because obama was incompetent, even with a super majority in congress for his first two years. After that is was all about running again and covering up Solyndra, Benghazi and fast and furious.

            You remember Solyndra right...aka the green new deal before there was a green new deal. The solar energy company that received $530 million of taxpayer handouts and was touted many times by Obama, and Vice President Joe Biden, as the next big thing in green energy. It never produced any energy to speak of before it went bankrupt.
            It takes a special kind of stupid to lose 535MM, but Obama and Biden proved up to the task

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              It takes a special kind of stupid to lose 535MM, but Obama and Biden proved up to the task
              Trump lost hundreds of millions of Fred's money, went belly up in the casino business, and had 16 companies evaporate.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                On the state school form I have my doctor complete it and mail it back to me to submit to the school. I also use the form for summer camp etc. When the doctor mails it back to me, I can make any changes I want on the form and the doctor and school would be none the wiser. I can write in a vaccine date. The school does not follow up with the doctors. Hell, I could just complete the whole form and sign for the doctor and they would not know.
                Given that the vaccine will likely become a yearly or regular item like a flu shot, that would make tracking it even more cumbersome and will result in taking your word for it.
                People like you make life more difficult for everyone else

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  It takes a special kind of stupid to lose 535MM, but Obama and Biden proved up to the task
                  you are using the wrong terms
                  they didnt lose the money- they paid off friends and supporters
                  its an old mob deal- take a business,leverage it to the hilt, walk away when the business goes under
                  the only people who lost money on that deal were the taxpayers

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    great recession? you mean the steepest one in history...the one Trump recovered from in record time? Or that long drawn out one that we had because obama was incompetent, even with a super majority in congress for his first two years. After that is was all about running again and covering up Solyndra, Benghazi and fast and furious.

                    You remember Solyndra right...aka the green new deal before there was a green new deal. The solar energy company that received $530 million of taxpayer handouts and was touted many times by Obama, and Vice President Joe Biden, as the next big thing in green energy. It never produced any energy to speak of before it went bankrupt.
                    I think you are really going to love what happens starting on January 21st. The S&P has been on a tear since Nov 4th, a better run COVID response, and combine that with actual competent leadership taking the helm we are poised for quite a economic boom. The Solyndra bit is a red herring as you know the reason for the bankruptcy was Chinese companies dumping silicon which made traditional panels made by Chinese companies much, much cheaper. Nothing anyone state-side could have predicted. They did get some trade litigation money back for the US government, but not enough to pay back the investment.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I think you are really going to love what happens starting on January 21st. The S&P has been on a tear since Nov 4th, a better run COVID response, and combine that with actual competent leadership taking the helm we are poised for quite a economic boom. The Solyndra bit is a red herring as you know the reason for the bankruptcy was Chinese companies dumping silicon which made traditional panels made by Chinese companies much, much cheaper. Nothing anyone state-side could have predicted. They did get some trade litigation money back for the US government, but not enough to pay back the investment.
                      The guy who made money was the Obama fund raiser. Obama bailed him out with tax payer money...he didn’t gift wrap in like he did when he sent pallets of cash to Iran though

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        People like you make life more difficult for everyone else
                        That is the best compliment I have gotten in awhile.
                        That is the type of person I am.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You will find this will no longer work. Airlines and health insurers are developing digital passports for vaccinations. A barcode based system that offers privacy while offering access to history of specific vaccinations being screened for. Enjoy sitting at home. This will happen and happen quick because gyms, movie theaters, bars, and large sports venues all are dying to open and a simple smartphone based system will work to offer a path toward normalcy.
                          A digital forged document is just as easy if not easier then writing it in.
                          You realize nothing digital is full proof and can be hacked.
                          While I may not have the skills, I have the money to pay for the skills required.
                          That is how I got my hands on test results
                          Anything can be purchased
                          It is even easier in a bad economy
                          More people are desperate

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            You will find this will no longer work. Airlines and health insurers are developing digital passports for vaccinations. A barcode based system that offers privacy while offering access to history of specific vaccinations being screened for. Enjoy sitting at home. This will happen and happen quick because gyms, movie theaters, bars, and large sports venues all are dying to open and a simple smartphone based system will work to offer a path toward normalcy.
                            This will not happen here. Americans will not accept this tyranny. Even right now, front line health care workers are refusing the vaccine. They have seen firsthand the deaths from / with CV and they are saying NO in large numbers.
                            Power to the people!
                            https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/alarmi...id-19-vaccine/

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              The guy who made money was the Obama fund raiser. Obama bailed him out with tax payer money...he didn’t gift wrap in like he did when he sent pallets of cash to Iran though
                              Yeah, none of Trump's pals or big donors have made money the last four years

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                This will not happen here. Americans will not accept this tyranny. Even right now, front line health care workers are refusing the vaccine. They have seen firsthand the deaths from / with CV and they are saying NO in large numbers.
                                Power to the people!
                                https://nypost.com/2021/01/01/alarmi...id-19-vaccine/
                                And in the Lone Star State, a doctor at Houston Memorial Medical Center told NPR earlier this month that half the nurses in the facility would not get the vaccine, citing political reasons

                                "Political reasons." Who politicized covid? Far more cons say they won't get vaccinated than democrats.

                                Don't be surprised to see more employers and states require vaccinations for employees. Read a story yesterday about how prisons are having to shut down because so many employees are getting sick they can't safely operate other than on total lockdown. They also can't move possibly sick prisoners around or intake new ones, causing backlogs at local jails. Emergency services don't have much flex in having a lot of staff out sick, nor hospitals , care facilities, psych hospitals....sure it will be taken to court but employment legal experts weighing say employees would lose in most states.

                                Colleges absolutely will require students to get vaccinated. They can't re-open dorms without it and they desperately need that revenue.

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