Where are the Stars at as a club

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As an independent observer, it is fairly clear to me that the Stars have lost their dominance.

Is this a blip, or part of a long trend? Only time will tell. But, at this time, there are viable alternatives for the truly elite player. Quite a bit different than the recent past.

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Wow. Truly sad. If the story about his family background is true, it's really tragic. Can't imagine anyone acting like this.

Did his dad beat him as a kid? Never let him get a rebound in the driveway?

There must have been some abuse for him to turn out the way he did.

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Did his dad beat him as a kid? Never let him get a rebound in the driveway?

There must have been some abuse for him to turn out the way he did.

There has to be some story. What has happened here is unimaginable.

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As an independent observer, it is fairly clear to me that the Stars have lost their dominance.

Is this a blip, or part of a long trend? Only time will tell. But, at this time, there are viable alternatives for the truly elite player. Quite a bit different than the recent past.

Did your wife do the Heimlich after you wrote "As an independent observer..."? Thanks for the laugh, BTNT.

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There has to be some story. What has happened here is unimaginable.

Perspective responding to himself...again.

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NEFC just had a bunch of teams do well at showcase tournament over the past couple of weekends and start their NPL season this up coming weekend. The Stars also start their ECNL season this weekend and then have their big San Diego event coming up in a couple of weeks. It is probably safe to say that both clubs will do extremely well in their respective leagues and it is pretty clear that a number of NEFC teams will be a major factor in the up coming NPL championships. The initial question then is do we see any of the Stars teams being able to have a comparable showcase performance out in San Diego? The bigger question though is where will their performance out in San Diego slot their teams for the ECNL championship and do we see any Stars team being capable of results similar to the NEFC U15's in it. If not what does that portend for the Stars future?

Just another thread about who is at the better club.

At u15, my understanding is that for girls the recruiting process starts for them. the girls playing on their clubs top teams don't have to pay attention to wins -losses , most of their attention should be on the process of getting recruited. Its a multiple years ordeal, that takes up a lot of time. Show cases, tournaments, league play, is all about them as individuals playing on a team. Their contact with college coaches, their reactions to their own game play will determine, who pays attention to them.

TS posters worrying about wins - losses, will not get your kid recruited. Clubs love your bragging, the appearance that a winning team will get your child recruited, works beneficial to the club revenues.

If you want to brag, do it by signing in.

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So are you saying that the ECNL is irrelevant except for the showcasing part? Seems like the efficiency of going across the country for exposure is questionable when a tournament like Jefferson can bring in all the coaches a local player is going to need. Here is a listing of the coaches at my kid's first two games at Jefferson, do you really need many more?

Belmont Abbey
Binghamton University
Bloomsburg University
Brandeis
Brown
Bryant University
California University of Pennsylvania
Cornell
Delaware State University
DeSales University
Drexel University
East Tennessee State University
Eastern University
George Washington University
Gettysburgh College
Hamilton College
Hartwick College
IONA College
Kings College
Kutztown University
LaSalle
Loyola University
Monmouth
Moravian College
Mount St. Mary's
NYU
Randolph-Macon College
Rhodes College
Robert Morris
Salisbury
Southern New Hampshire University
St. Lawrence University
SUNY Plattsburgh
Temple University
University of Akron
University of Alabama at Birmingham
University of Central Florida
University of Chicago
University of Cumberlands Kentucky
University of Mount Olive
University of North Carolina - Greensboro
Ursinus College
Vassar
Villanova
Virginia Commonwealth University
William Smith

If it is not about competing and winning soccer games then what is any of this really about? If it is only about chasing a college career then the ECNL clearly over played its hand because it is pretty clear a player can do that without being in the ECNL. Maybe that miscalculation is what is really at the heart of the Stars decline. They tried to convince everyone that they had the only game in town when the reality is they don't. If every club can basically do the same thing for their players, doesn't that then make winning games and titles all that more important because it is the only way a club can differentiate themselves?

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So are you saying that the ECNL is irrelevant except for the showcasing part? Seems like the efficiency of going across the country for exposure is questionable when a tournament like Jefferson can bring in all the coaches a local player is going to need. Here is a listing of the coaches at my kid's first two games at Jefferson, do you really need many more?

Belmont Abbey
Binghamton University
Bloomsburg University
Brandeis
Brown
Bryant University
California University of Pennsylvania
Cornell
Delaware State University
DeSales University
Drexel University
East Tennessee State University
Eastern University
George Washington University
Gettysburgh College
Hamilton College
Hartwick College
IONA College
Kings College
Kutztown University
LaSalle
Loyola University
Monmouth
Moravian College
Mount St. Mary's
NYU
Randolph-Macon College
Rhodes College
Robert Morris
Salisbury
Southern New Hampshire University
St. Lawrence University
SUNY Plattsburgh
Temple University
University of Akron
University of Alabama at Birmingham
University of Central Florida
University of Chicago
University of Cumberlands Kentucky
University of Mount Olive
University of North Carolina - Greensboro
Ursinus College
Vassar
Villanova
Virginia Commonwealth University
William Smith

If it is not about competing and winning soccer games then what is any of this really about? If it is only about chasing a college career then the ECNL clearly over played its hand because it is pretty clear a player can do that without being in the ECNL. Maybe that miscalculation is what is really at the heart of the Stars decline. They tried to convince everyone that they had the only game in town when the reality is they don't. If every club can basically do the same thing for their players, doesn't that then make winning games and titles all that more important because it is the only way a club can differentiate themselves?

Good morning, BTDT. Not much sleep, huh? Mt Olive, really? And did you notice the last college in your list?

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Is that where your kid went to school? What about it? Is someone supposed to be impressed by it?

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The sheer volume of posts that denigrate the Stars is proof of a pathological obsession with that club and a serious inferiority or wannabe complex on behalf of the protagonist. A compliment to the state of Stars in reality. Thanks BTDT!

NEFC obsesses about Stars but Stars obsesses about ECNL opponents not NEFC.

No, BB. Your obsession with destroying NEFC 15's is a reality. A compliment that any success of this team is tearing you apart. The promise to JD that top players from this team would go to Stars not fulfilled is proving you a hoax. NEFC is doing well without ECNL and it is proven. NEFC obsesses with quality and success not with other clubs.
Here is a thought for everyone else reading this forum: BB knows players and parents on this team very well and he knows how to push some buttons. Also he knows how he promoted divisions in that team in the past. There is some deep information here that is only known by him or the team. You pick.
He is doing it from a different "perspective" and either the rest of stars want to admit it or not, he is part of their coaching staff. Therefore these attacks are coming from stars.

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Is that where your kid went to school? What about it? Is someone supposed to be impressed by it?

You referring to William Smith? Nope, that's for girls. Pretty decent school. And if you had let your kid go there she would have won a national championship 2 years ago.

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No, BB. Your obsession with destroying NEFC 15's is a reality. A compliment that any success of this team is tearing you apart. The promise to JD that top players from this team would go to Stars not fulfilled is proving you a hoax. NEFC is doing well without ECNL and it is proven. NEFC obsesses with quality and success not with other clubs.
Here is a thought for everyone else reading this forum: BB knows players and parents on this team very well and he knows how to push some buttons. Also he knows how he promoted divisions in that team in the past. There is some deep information here that is only known by him or the team. You pick.
He is doing it from a different "perspective" and either the rest of stars want to admit it or not, he is part of their coaching staff. Therefore these attacks are coming from stars.

Excellent logic as always. Almost as solid as the Pythagorean theorem.

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There has to be some story. What has happened here is unimaginable.

CTE is no joke. Many who suffer from it try to self-medicate with alcohol and other drugs.

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that list sucks...who is his hall of fame daf?

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So are you saying that the ECNL is irrelevant except for the showcasing part? Seems like the efficiency of going across the country for exposure is questionable when a tournament like Jefferson can bring in all the coaches a local player is going to need....

If it is not about competing and winning soccer games then what is any of this really about? If it is only about chasing a college career then the ECNL clearly over played its hand because it is pretty clear a player can do that without being in the ECNL. Maybe that miscalculation is what is really at the heart of the Stars decline. They tried to convince everyone that they had the only game in town when the reality is they don't. If every club can basically do the same thing for their players, doesn't that then make winning games and titles all that more important because it is the only way a club can differentiate themselves?

More BTNT illogic. ECNL clubs in general must be in "decline"--and, yet, D1 coaches continue to report the ECNL as their main destination for evaluating and recruiting players. Not unlike early recruiting (which some parents complacently accept as a reality), the favored status of the ECNL is also a D1 reality.

Anyway, if whatever alternative path NEFC is on is as good or better, and some families are figuring that out, great for them. There will be relatively less competition to make local ECNL teams, for players who prefer that path. Win-win, at least in terms of consumer choice.