What is the end goal?

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14 scholarships to divide across an entire squad. Only super studs will get more than 75% and total free rides are rare; the bulk of players will be in the 40-60% range; then some less than 25%, even zero.

You forgot to add not every program is fully funded.

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You are both baked. Maybe you have girls and your perspective is from that realm. That experience is vastly different than that for boys.

For boys, there are only 9.9 "scholarships" per team. So there aren't "plenty to go around".

Also, all the colleges now want to recruit a few foreign kids so they have the cool toys like the other schools. You think some kid from Sweden is coming here for a generic D1 experience and paying for it? Nope. Free.

So of that 9.9, take lets say 4 away, leaving 5.9 for the domestic kids. You have a couple underprivilaged studs with crummy GPAs, well they're free too. So of the Scholarships that are left to run of the mill "High Level" (DA or NP or now ECNL boys) suburban kids, there are 3.9 to go around for everyone. Yah, now that is reality, "plenty to go around".

Oh, lots of schools are not to interested in giving a freshman a scholarship, because, well, kids don't like the grind when they are actually faced with it. So they don't get cash until year 2..... Lots to go around, baked.....

Go do your homework.

The boys experience is far different than the girls.

You are showing your naiveté. Tuitions are now in the 70-75 thousand range. There are plenty of soccer scholarships out there. Don't be foolish enough to think that other kids aren't getting them because your kid wasn't good enough for them to be offered one.

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You forgot to add not every program is fully funded.

And that for boys - which I think the thread OP has - the number is even less (9.9) and foreign players get most of the $. No one should be in this for a financial reward. If it happens great. You won the lottery. But many won't get any thing or even play in college at all. For those who play in college if often doesn't have a significant payout, especially vs the cost of doing club for several years.

Your kid should be in it for all the intrinsic benefits of playing sports - challenging oneself, working as a team etc.

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14 scholarships to divide across an entire squad. Only super studs will get more than 75% and total free rides are rare; the bulk of players will be in the 40-60% range; then some less than 25%, even zero.

Yes, that's how life works. There is a pyramid in every walk of life. That was posters point. Some of those with the talent and resolve to make it to the top, do receive the spoils. To get a scholarship offer worth $225k to an academically prestigious college is rare but real. The rest of us have to settle for something less.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't still try and I interpreted his point to be that sacrifice is necessary and still may not be sufficient. A parent can choose to encourage their child to pursue excellence anyway, or can choose to protect them from failure. Personally, I don't see a down side. If she doesn't have the soccer chops for a desirable D1, she will go D3, and I will claim it was always about academics for us, and proudly put her schools sticker on our bumper.

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Yes, that's how life works. There is a pyramid in every walk of life. That was posters point. Some of those with the talent and resolve to make it to the top, do receive the spoils. To get a scholarship offer worth $225k to an academically prestigious college is rare but real. The rest of us have to settle for something less.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't still try and I interpreted his point to be that sacrifice is necessary and still may not be sufficient. A parent can choose to encourage their child to pursue excellence anyway, or can choose to protect them from failure. Personally, I don't see a down side. If she doesn't have the soccer chops for a desirable D1, she will go D3, and I will claim it was always about academics for us, and proudly put her schools sticker on our bumper.

Also depends on where that player targets - target well, where you're highly desired, you'll get more. Target where you're not a top starter you're more in the 50% window, maybe even less. Very few players will be a hot commodity at top programs, even fewer from MA. Not many will have the luxury of having a world of top soccer and academic options at their feet. That's where choices have to be made on what matters and what can give. A full ride to a lesser program can make sense financially and is a necessity for some families. But for many middle to upper income soccer families academics come first. Getting 50% at a good academic school for them means probably graduating with little or no debt. 75-100% is great, but not if it comes with too many other costs on academic or social fit, location...

The discussions with soccer and other upper income sports are very different than with football or basketball. There players come from much more diverse economic backgrounds AND some are hoping to have a shot at a pro team one day.

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You are both baked. Maybe you have girls and your perspective is from that realm. That experience is vastly different than that for boys.

For boys, there are only 9.9 "scholarships" per team. So there aren't "plenty to go around".

Also, all the colleges now want to recruit a few foreign kids so they have the cool toys like the other schools. You think some kid from Sweden is coming here for a generic D1 experience and paying for it? Nope. Free.

So of that 9.9, take lets say 4 away, leaving 5.9 for the domestic kids. You have a couple underprivilaged studs with crummy GPAs, well they're free too. So of the Scholarships that are left to run of the mill "High Level" (DA or NP or now ECNL boys) suburban kids, there are 3.9 to go around for everyone. Yah, now that is reality, "plenty to go around".

Oh, lots of schools are not to interested in giving a freshman a scholarship, because, well, kids don't like the grind when they are actually faced with it. So they don't get cash until year 2..... Lots to go around, baked.....

Go do your homework.

The boys experience is far different than the girls.

Yep...this is reality.

To state the obvious: "Education First" I'm not using soccer for my kid to get a scholarship...I'm using it for the opportunity to get him accepted in to a good school.

Having gone through the college application process with my other kids...every kid needs a way to set themselves apart from the other 18,000 applications for the 1800 spots. If you are a kid from the suburbs of Boston you have a lower probability of acceptance. If you are an underprivileged kid from Alabama applying to BC...much better chance. Take every advantage you can...athletics can be an advantage. Most likely that money you, and I, sank in to club soccer will not be recouped.

Enjoy watching your kid play, enjoy the 'windshield time' and use soccer for college acceptance...for 90% of us that is the return.

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14 scholarships to divide across an entire squad. Only super studs will get more than 75% and total free rides are rare; the bulk of players will be in the 40-60% range; then some less than 25%, even zero.

On the women's side t's all relative. You don't have to be a NT prospect to get 75%+ from a middle of the pack D1. Men's soccer is a completely different ball game though because most men's programs have to fight with the big men's revenue sports and balance out T9.

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You are both baked. Maybe you have girls and your perspective is from that realm. That experience is vastly different than that for boys.

For boys, there are only 9.9 "scholarships" per team. So there aren't "plenty to go around".

Also, all the colleges now want to recruit a few foreign kids so they have the cool toys like the other schools. You think some kid from Sweden is coming here for a generic D1 experience and paying for it? Nope. Free.

So of that 9.9, take lets say 4 away, leaving 5.9 for the domestic kids. You have a couple underprivilaged studs with crummy GPAs, well they're free too. So of the Scholarships that are left to run of the mill "High Level" (DA or NP or now ECNL boys) suburban kids, there are 3.9 to go around for everyone. Yah, now that is reality, "plenty to go around".

Oh, lots of schools are not to interested in giving a freshman a scholarship, because, well, kids don't like the grind when they are actually faced with it. So they don't get cash until year 2..... Lots to go around, baked.....

Go do your homework.

The boys experience is far different than the girls.

Sorry but soccer is a women's sport in this country and I have all daughters. The simple reality is if your son were more physically gifted and could play one of the big revenue sports at a scholarship level he would be looking at a full scholarship since those sports are "head count" sports. On the men's side the boy's end up fighting over table scraps because soccer is usually the 4th or 5th men's sport on the campus. Don't shot the messenger.

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Sorry but soccer is a women's sport in this country and I have all daughters. The simple reality is if your son were more physically gifted and could play one of the big revenue sports at a scholarship level he would be looking at a full scholarship since those sports are "head count" sports. On the men's side the boy's end up fighting over table scraps because soccer is usually the 4th or 5th men's sport on the campus. Don't shot the messenger.

There you go being a D1 dik again. You can talk facts without adding personal insults.

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http://www.scholarshipstats.com/aver...r-athlete.html

This gives a break down for 2017

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http://www.scholarshipstats.com/aver...r-athlete.html

This gives a break down for 2017

school specific data is across all their sports, not just soccer.

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school specific data is across all their sports, not just soccer.

There is a link for each sport just click the sport in the 3rd table

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You are both baked. Maybe you have girls and your perspective is from that realm. That experience is vastly different than that for boys.

For boys, there are only 9.9 "scholarships" per team. So there aren't "plenty to go around".

Also, all the colleges now want to recruit a few foreign kids so they have the cool toys like the other schools. You think some kid from Sweden is coming here for a generic D1 experience and paying for it? Nope. Free.

So of that 9.9, take lets say 4 away, leaving 5.9 for the domestic kids. You have a couple underprivilaged studs with crummy GPAs, well they're free too. So of the Scholarships that are left to run of the mill "High Level" (DA or NP or now ECNL boys) suburban kids, there are 3.9 to go around for everyone. Yah, now that is reality, "plenty to go around".

Oh, lots of schools are not to interested in giving a freshman a scholarship, because, well, kids don't like the grind when they are actually faced with it. So they don't get cash until year 2..... Lots to go around, baked.....

Go do your homework.

The boys experience is far different than the girls.

ur totally right. but no one cares about boys.
except of course the parents of those 2nd tier athletes. in the US, soccer is for the girls. Just ask FIFA guy

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http://www.scholarshipstats.com/aver...r-athlete.html

This gives a break down for 2017

Please don't use this particular site as any sort of reliable information. It gets discussed on this site every year and every year people come back and say the numbers do not reflect reality. There is something about their methodology that just doesn't come up with a real world picture.