FSA Misinformation

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It is still unclear how FSA will handle credits and refunds, it is still unclear how much money they will be giving back to the families. Reserve judgement on that, they could do a great job and make everyone happy.

One topic seems to have been settled however and has been a talking point in many of the previous posts, "how much could they save on uniforms?"

Charge the families the same tuition next year but don't give them a new uniform

Let's do some quick math

Let's say each player's uniform costs the club around $200.00 each
56 teams x 18 players each team, about 1000 kids
1000 x $200.00 = $200,000.00 that the club is not buying next year, and then double figure since they will still be charging the families the same amount of tuition
The total is $400,000.00

I heard that for members in good standing, they are giving a free 3-piece chicken tenders and small drink and fries when you pay your 2020-2021 deposit (by June 30th only).

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200k yes I agree
The doubling is wrong.
If they include uniforms with normal tuition next year. They have a 200k expense. If they don’t include uniforms they save 200k. That is it.
While your math is ok, you are not a CPA.

You are exactly right - THEY are saving $200k next year, NOT the families

Their email said, "In an effort to avoid cost increases, all players will wear the current uniform kit for the 2020-21 season."

That means, we arent going to give you uniforms that cost the club $200K every year but we are still going to charge you the same

So we save $200k by not ordering uniforms, and we still collect that same $200K we did this past year that would have paid for those uniforms. So in a way, that is a $400K turn around

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I heard that for members in good standing, they are giving a free 3-piece chicken tenders and small drink and fries when you pay your 2020-2021 deposit (by June 30th only).

You heard wrong, fries are not included, expect to pay extra for those.

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You heard wrong, fries are not included, expect to pay extra for those.

***! This is getting serious!

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You are exactly right - THEY are saving $200k next year, NOT the families

Their email said, "In an effort to avoid cost increases, all players will wear the current uniform kit for the 2020-21 season."

That means, we arent going to give you uniforms that cost the club $200K every year but we are still going to charge you the same

So we save $200k by not ordering uniforms, and we still collect that same $200K we did this past year that would have paid for those uniforms. So in a way, that is a $400K turn around

As a CPA no. That is a mid-representation

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As a CPA no. That is a mid-representation

I agree with you, but the point is, when the kit is included and you paid for it for this year with your fees (and dont get to use it), when you dont get new ones next year at the same cost, the club is the one that saves on the costs of the equipment next year when you dont get new one ... even if they do print them themselves!

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If a bear craps in the woods and there is no one around to smell it, does the crap smell?

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Here is something people have to understand as a big difference that I see between FSA and CFC

FSA = Farmington Sports Arena
The arena was built before the club. The club's purpose was created to support and fill the arena. So during these times, it should be no surprise that the club isn't worried about what it does to the families of the club, it's priority is to make sure that the facility is taken care of. That is why the tuition paid by the families will cover the lack of revenue normally brought in by the facility in the last several months.
The name of your club is, FSA FC which literally stands for Farmington Sports Arena Football Club.

CFC = Connecticut Football Club
This is a soccer club who built a foundation and culture around the club itself, and recently when it had the ability to build a facility for its families, it did just that. But it built it as a training facility and home game fields for the club. There is no fan-fare at the facility, there is no upstairs restaurant being jammed down your throats, the focus at the CFC facility is for the club.

FSA FC was built and named after a facility
CFC Park and Fieldhouse was built and named after a club

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You are exactly right - THEY are saving $200k next year, NOT the families

Their email said, "In an effort to avoid cost increases, all players will wear the current uniform kit for the 2020-21 season."

That means, we arent going to give you uniforms that cost the club $200K every year but we are still going to charge you the same

So we save $200k by not ordering uniforms, and we still collect that same $200K we did this past year that would have paid for those uniforms. So in a way, that is a $400K turn around

Not a lot of business minds here on TS I see. Costs are not what drives the price in youth soccer. It's demand. The market is not very price sensitive especially (and more so now) if you have an ECNL badge. FSA could have increased prices by $500 for next season and still reused 2019 kits. Sure some may have not returned but others would have filled their space.

Club's pricing varies and not always related to quality or performance. Take for instance MA clubs (from MA TS board):

Stars -$2,950
Scorpions- $3,000
NEFC-$3,300
Select- $4,300

Arguably Stars the best club here in certainly the best league. Not sure if that includes kits but nevertheless far lower than Select which now plays in an inferior league.

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Not a lot of business minds here on TS I see. Costs are not what drives the price in youth soccer. It's demand. The market is not very price sensitive especially (and more so now) if you have an ECNL badge. FSA could have increased prices by $500 for next season and still reused 2019 kits. Sure some may have not returned but others would have filled their space.

Club's pricing varies and not always related to quality or performance. Take for instance MA clubs (from MA TS board):

Stars -$2,950
Scorpions- $3,000
NEFC-$3,300
Select- $4,300

Arguably Stars the best club here in certainly the best league. Not sure if that includes kits but nevertheless far lower than Select which now plays in an inferior league.

Actually, you’re not sure what it includes at all, you’re just putting numbers up. They may charge for extras like tournaments, indoor time, kits, etc. You don’t know.

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This shouldn't be argument about what clubs are charging and is it worth it.

The argument on this thread is that FSA has said next year the tuition won't go up so they can save money but they are not doing uniforms next year.

So if your are not doing uniforms next year but you are still charging the SAME amount then the club is saving money NOT the families.

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Check to see what is included in the price. Does it include tournament exp. ? Some clubs charge extra for that. Does it include coaches expenses for games and tournaments? That becomes a huge expense. Is that in the fee or extra for each tournament

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Check to see what is included in the price. Does it include tournament exp. ? Some clubs charge extra for that. Does it include coaches expenses for games and tournaments? That becomes a huge expense. Is that in the fee or extra for each tournament

I also don’t think Stars train indoors which is a huge expense. Great for mild winters, but not so great when there’s 2 feet of snow on the ground and it’s 10 degrees out. Lol

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Check to see what is included in the price. Does it include tournament exp. ? Some clubs charge extra for that. Does it include coaches expenses for games and tournaments? That becomes a huge expense. Is that in the fee or extra for each tournament

This should all be spelled out in a club’s offer. My kid’s offer from her club clearly states what tuition includes—number of training sessions, 4 showcases/tournaments, who the coach will be, etc. Every club should be communicating that info. You shouldn’t have to ask.