Roster sizes

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The injuries become a very real part of the game once they reach high school, but 20 is still high. 18 should suffice and in a pinch a club could always promote from within. There are thousands of rea$on$ they don’t do that, though.

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You need to take into account injuries as well as players not available for numerous reasons. For full field 11 v. 11 a highly competitive team should have 20 players.

20 is bloat and club greed.

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You need to take into account injuries as well as players not available for numerous reasons. For full field 11 v. 11 a highly competitive team should have 20 players.

you can only dress 18 for games so 20 is a big NO

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You need to take into account injuries as well as players not available for numerous reasons. For full field 11 v. 11 a highly competitive team should have 20 players.

My kid's team never had more than 18 on the roster over 8 years and almost never had a problem. In the 3 games they needed a couple of extra players, they borrowed players from a younger team at the club with no issues.

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Money grab. Rosters are growing. Play time shrinking

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You need to take into account injuries as well as players not available for numerous reasons. For full field 11 v. 11 a highly competitive team should have 20 players.

The only issue is then 2 players don't dress for the game. Also, with 18 dressed unless you are 12-15, you probably won' play more than 10 mins in the game, if you get in at all. Not sure that is ideal for anyone.

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DO NOT sign a contract with a club that rosters more than 18 kids. There should be no more than 18 at a game, 18 at your kids practice, unless a kid is trying out. Any coach that has more than 18 is no longer focused on team development, your kid, etc. The reason they do this is to start building up the team for next year or season because they might cut the bottom 3. Club greed. No good. Imagine you pay your tuition only to be told your kid wasn’t invited to the game this week? Um no. That’s ok at pro level sure when soccer is your job but certainly bo good for a team or a players confidence. Coaches, when you pick your teams for the fall, don’t add players all year. Make your team development and player development your priority. Just like they are stuck with you for the year, you are stuck with them.

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you can only dress 18 for games so 20 is a big NO

- HS aged teams will easily have two out with injuries, school visits etc
- most HS aged teams have two games a weekend so some coaches play some players heavy one game, others the next game.
- two GKs mean it's really 16 field players. GKS get rotated also, either half a game each, or one on Sat the other Sun
- PT should be earned at 14+. That means it should be meaningful but won't be equal.
- If your kid is only getting a few minutes you should find them a better team fit elsewhere

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DO NOT sign a contract with a club that rosters more than 18 kids. There should be no more than 18 at a game, 18 at your kids practice, unless a kid is trying out. Any coach that has more than 18 is no longer focused on team development, your kid, etc. The reason they do this is to start building up the team for next year or season because they might cut the bottom 3. Club greed. No good. Imagine you pay your tuition only to be told your kid wasn’t invited to the game this week? Um no. That’s ok at pro level sure when soccer is your job but certainly bo good for a team or a players confidence. Coaches, when you pick your teams for the fall, don’t add players all year. Make your team development and player development your priority. Just like they are stuck with you for the year, you are stuck with them.

yeah good luck with that with the better teams/higher leagues. Twenty is commonplace and also rarely an issue with injuries etc. Over 20 is excessive of course but sometimes hard to avoid.

Really the issue is where does your kid fit on the roster? If they're #1-15 it's probably good to keep them there. If they're 16-21 a different team with a lot more PT is probably a better place. Normally that means they need to move down a level - and that's where parents get stuck on their egos

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yeah good luck with that with the better teams/higher leagues. Twenty is commonplace and also rarely an issue with injuries etc. Over 20 is excessive of course but sometimes hard to avoid.

Really the issue is where does your kid fit on the roster? If they're #1-15 it's probably good to keep them there. If they're 16-21 a different team with a lot more PT is probably a better place. Normally that means they need to move down a level - and that's where parents get stuck on their egos

Although I agree about parent egos and player, as well as players needing a good fit team, what you say earlier is a challenge. Higher level teams really need to train the players well, how can they with so many to train? And if your kid is not starting 11 and they drop to a lower team there’s a chance they are not challenged or pushed enough. Plus it’s not always easy to move down to a team. Although at the younger years (2009, 2010) there is not a big gap between the bottom of the National roster and top of regional (referring to Stars), when they get into high school that gap is much bigger. A Stars national white player isn’t going to enjoy playing on Stars regional
teams. They will miss the speed of play etc.

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Although I agree about parent egos and player, as well as players needing a good fit team, what you say earlier is a challenge. Higher level teams really need to train the players well, how can they with so many to train? And if your kid is not starting 11 and they drop to a lower team there’s a chance they are not challenged or pushed enough. Plus it’s not always easy to move down to a team. Although at the younger years (2009, 2010) there is not a big gap between the bottom of the National roster and top of regional (referring to Stars), when they get into high school that gap is much bigger. A Stars national white player isn’t going to enjoy playing on Stars regional
teams. They will miss the speed of play etc.

If a stars white player isn't ever playing then yeah, they should move down to something else. Doesn't have to be R but could be another club.

Sitting on any bench not only stunts development but it can crush a kid's confidence and love of the game. That's not always easy for a player to accept and some might quit because of it, but it's the cold hard truth.

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If a stars white player isn't ever playing then yeah, they should move down to something else. Doesn't have to be R but could be another club.

Sitting on any bench not only stunts development but it can crush a kid's confidence and love of the game. That's not always easy for a player to accept and some might quit because of it, but it's the cold hard truth.

With Stars White, the problem could very well be the coach and not the player.