US Soccer argues male players have more 'skill' than female players in equal pay case

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These are two completely different jobs. There's many times more worldwide interest in men's soccer than women's. We're not talking about men vs women doctors where they both can perform equally at the highest levels. The women's competitive landscape is ridiculously easier than the men's which eliminates any arguments based on results. The men's overall revenue pool is many times greater than the women's.

If the women deserve equal pay then they need to complete in the same pool as the men. The truth is the top u15 boys academy's would drub our world cup winning women's teams.

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These are two completely different jobs. There's many times more worldwide interest in men's soccer than women's. We're not talking about men vs women doctors where they both can perform equally at the highest levels. The women's competitive landscape is ridiculously easier than the men's which eliminates any arguments based on results. The men's overall revenue pool is many times greater than the women's.

If the women deserve equal pay then they need to complete in the same pool as the men. The truth is the top u15 boys academy's would drub our world cup winning women's teams.

You guys are idiots. This is not a battle of who is biggest faster and stronger. Science dictates that. This is about who is entertaining. Women and Men want female athletic role models. Female and Male fans can appreciate grit, good decision making, good technical ability and many other qualities about entertaining soccer that are not heavily determined by speed size and strength. And let’s not forget competitiveness. Who hasn’t held their breath to see if a female can break the world record at the olympics held by another female, name your sport. It is a triumph to see them break it! Not because their time or mark beats a male time or mark, but because apples to apples it is thrilling and exciting. Apples to oranges is boring. Why would anyone compare a female to a male mark? Booooooring. It is exhilarating ad entertaining because we understand the achievement is still amazing given the scale of athleticism relative to other females, not males. Female sports, while typically not generating the same revenue as men yet, a few million games behind at building their fan base, have proven to be valuable and entertaining. Be it gymnastic, figure skating, soccer, track and field, basketball and so many more sports. L If one entertaining group of athletes generates more revenue and a larger fan base than another it should yield more of the proceeds. Period. Now as for the argument females are paid more via benefits, figure it out people! USSF needs to tackle FIFA or if not, lead the world by compensating for FIFA’s gaping errors and in turn create pressure for them to fix. Be a leader like we used to be.

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Truth

The best females in this country don’t even come close to a good u16 boys Team in this country.

It’s not even close. The US Womens national team loses to u15 club boys teams to prepare for World Cup and they get destroyed by 3-4 goals.

Alex Morgan wouldn’t even make the top D1 men’s team.

Tobin Heath wouldn’t start on a USL team let alone comparing her skill to a Neymar, Sancho, Mbappe.

This doesn’t sound politically correct but it’s true.

Serena Williams gets destroyed by #132 ranked men’s tennis player.

Boys that can’t even make districts in high school will win state if they declare as a trans-girl.

This is an evolutionary difference in physical abilities and the skill and depth of understanding the game isn’t there.

The women’s game will evolve but comparing them to the men is like comparing the uswnt to a JV girls high school team.

Just because it isn’t equal doesn’t mean it has to be wrong. Some is out of their control.

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US Mens national team = boring, painful to watch and get beaten by tiny countries.

US Women's national team = four time World Cup champs, fun to watch, dominate.

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US Soccer argues male players have more skill than female players and should be paid more?

Brad Polumbo, Washington Post:
The U.S. Soccer Federation stated a fact in a legal brief. Then, when angry feminists such as Megan Rapinoe complained, the organization’s president, Carlos Cordeiro, profusely apologized for the truthful, yet apparently politically incorrect, language it used.
That's right: You're not allowed to tell the truth if feminists don't like it.
What was the federation's supposedly sexist crime? In the words of the United States Women's National Team captain and star Megan Rapinoe, it was that in court filings regarding the lawsuit against the federation over “equal pay,” the federation used “blatant misogyny and sexism as the argument" against the women’s team. A spokeswoman representing the female players called the federation's argument "plain simple sexism" and said that "it sounds as if it has been made by a cave man."
Per the Washington Post, the passage in dispute here was a motion that read:
The point is that the job of [a men’s national team] player (competing against senior men’s national teams) requires a higher level of skill based on speed and strength than does the job of [a women’s national team] player (competing against senior women’s national teams).

This is an objective fact. Facts cannot be sexist or bigoted.
Professional men’s soccer players are, on average, substantially stronger and faster than female players. The USWNT, while admirable in their success in the Women’s World Cup, competes at a far, far lower level of play than the top men’s international teams.
Heck, the world champion U.S. Women's National Team lost badly to an under-15 team of teenage boys in a scrimmage. That’s right: The best female players got walloped in a match against a professional men’s youth academy team. Admittedly, the game was for fun, not for the formal record, but still, the result explains everything about the difference between men's and women's soccer.
For the U.S. Soccer Federation to say that the top levels of professional men’s soccer “requires a higher level of skill based on speed and strength” is not sexist or offensive; it is a fact. It is a stunning and disturbing testament to the profound and widespread fear political correctness causes in our society that outrage over such a benign statement would actually lead Cordeiro to cower and beg for forgiveness. (And what a stunning absence of spine he has demonstrated, much to the detriment of his sport.)
This is just the latest example of Rapinoe and her fellow left-wing feminists stirring up fake outrage and playing the victim despite their ridiculous levels of personal fame and privilege.
The funny part is that this entire controversy stems from an “equal pay” controversy that, quite frankly, is manufactured and devoid of any substantive basis. As Cordeiro explained:
Over the past decade, U.S. Soccer has paid our Women’s National Team more than our Men’s National Team. From 2010 through 2018, U.S. Soccer paid our women $34.1 million in salaries and game bonuses, and we paid our men $26.4 million — not counting the significant additional value of various benefits that our women’s players receive but which our men do not.
That's right: U.S. Soccer has actually paid the women more. Oops.
There is indeed a disparity in favor of the men’s World Cup in terms of prize money and rewards, but this is due to differences in viewership, not sexism. And these figures are determined by FIFA, not by U.S. Soccer, the entity which the women’s team is suing. All of this reveals that the whole controversy is much ado about nothing.
Of course, this is all par for the course for Rapinoe, who is far from a role model for young women. Sadly, liberals seem intent on continuing to glorify the privileged celebrity’s outrage-mongering and bending over backwards to accommodate it.
The result? Rapinoe’s exercises in fake victimhood won’t stop — at least, not until folks find their couThe U.S. Soccer Federation stated a fact in a legal brief. Then, when angry feminists such as Megan Rapinoe complained, the organization’s president, Carlos Cordeiro, profusely apologized for the truthful, yet apparently politically incorrect, language it used.
That's right: You're not allowed to tell the truth if feminists don't like it.
What was the federation's supposedly sexist crime? In the words of the United States Women's National Team captain and star Megan Rapinoe, it was that in court filings regarding the lawsuit against the federation over “equal pay,” the federation used “blatant misogyny and sexism as the argument" against the women’s team. A spokeswoman representing the female players called the federation's argument "plain simple sexism" and said that "it sounds as if it has been made by a cave man."
Per the Washington Post, the passage in dispute here was a motion that read:
The point is that the job of [a men’s national team] player (competing against senior men’s national teams) requires a higher level of skill based on speed and strength than does the job of [a women’s national team] player (competing against senior women’s national teams).

This is an objective fact. Facts cannot be sexist or bigoted.
Professional men’s soccer players are, on average, substantially stronger and faster than female players. The USWNT, while admirable in their success in the Women’s World Cup, competes at a far, far lower level of play than the top men’s international teams.
Heck, the world champion U.S. Women's National Team lost badly to an under-15 team of teenage boys in a scrimmage. That’s right: The best female players got walloped in a match against a professional men’s youth academy team. Admittedly, the game was for fun, not for the formal record, but still, the result explains everything about the difference between men's and women's soccer.
For the U.S. Soccer Federation to say that the top levels of professional men’s soccer “requires a higher level of skill based on speed and strength” is not sexist or offensive; it is a fact. It is a stunning and disturbing testament to the profound and widespread fear political correctness causes in our society that outrage over such a benign statement would actually lead Cordeiro to cower and beg for forgiveness. (And what a stunning absence of spine he has demonstrated, much to the detriment of his sport.)
This is just the latest example of Rapinoe and her fellow left-wing feminists stirring up fake outrage and playing the victim despite their ridiculous levels of personal fame and privilege.
The funny part is that this entire controversy stems from an “equal pay” controversy that, quite frankly, is manufactured and devoid of any substantive basis. As Cordeiro explained:
Over the past decade, U.S. Soccer has paid our Women’s National Team more than our Men’s National Team. From 2010 through 2018, U.S. Soccer paid our women $34.1 million in salaries and game bonuses, and we paid our men $26.4 million — not counting the significant additional value of various benefits that our women’s players receive but which our men do not.
That's right: U.S. Soccer has actually paid the women more. Oops.
There is indeed a disparity in favor of the men’s World Cup in terms of prize money and rewards, but this is due to differences in viewership, not sexism. And these figures are determined by FIFA, not by U.S. Soccer, the entity which the women’s team is suing. All of this reveals that the whole controversy is much ado about nothing.
Of course, this is all par for the course for Rapinoe, who is far from a role model for young women. Sadly, liberals seem intent on continuing to glorify the privileged celebrity’s outrage-mongering and bending over backwards to accommodate it.
The result? Rapinoe’s exercises in fake victimhood won’t stop — at least, not until folks find their courage and stand up to this nonsense.

Update: Carlos Cordeiro has now resigned

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I cannot believe this is an argument.

US Women's National Team generate more revenue then the men's team, they sell more Jersey's then the men's team. They are more popular in the USA then the Men's team and one helluva lot more fun to watch. They are asking for equal pay? The fact they are not asking for more money should be the only shocker here.

All you little 5'8" fellas who are all up in arms with this need to realize that you do not live in Europe; you live in the USA!! You get paid for your ability to generate revenue in the USA and the Women's National Team is better at this then the Men... Pay Them!!!

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Brad Polumbo, Washington Post:
The U.S. Soccer Federation stated a "fact" in a legal brief...

Get it right: Polumbo writes for the _Washington Examiner_, a tiresome right-wing birdcage liner that nobody takes seriously, not for the _Washington Post_.

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Get it right: Polumbo writes for the _Washington Examiner_, a tiresome right-wing birdcage liner that nobody takes seriously, not for the _Washington Post_.

Opposed to the left-wing Raponie? at least this Polumbo operates in facts...

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I cannot believe this is an argument.

US Women's National Team generate more revenue then the men's team, they sell more Jersey's then the men's team. They are more popular in the USA then the Men's team and one helluva lot more fun to watch. They are asking for equal pay? The fact they are not asking for more money should be the only shocker here.

All you little 5'8" fellas who are all up in arms with this need to realize that you do not live in Europe; you live in the USA!! You get paid for your ability to generate revenue in the USA and the Women's National Team is better at this then the Men... Pay Them!!!

Watching paint dry is a helluva lot more fun than ever enduring 1 minute of hell trying to watch a female soccer match .

For each their own.

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The US women are pretty exciting to watch in my opinion. They look like they are having fun. They are aren't super creative but they are extremely skilled. They look like they all enjoy each other - yeah I know there is a lot of inter-team dating. They are extremely successful.

Now the US men's team? I am not sure what they do to those guys or if they just do a bad job selecting them. The men are extremely boring to watch. They lack creativity. They look like they are miserable. They look like they dislike each other. And they consistently get their tails kicked by tiny countries with tiny budgets. Failure on a big scale.

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US Soccer argues male players have more skill than female players and should be paid more?

Well, how many women have made the USMNT roster? ZERO

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Well, how many women have made the USMNT roster? ZERO

Douche alert....

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The US women are pretty exciting to watch in my opinion. They look like they are having fun. They are aren't super creative but they are extremely skilled. They look like they all enjoy each other - yeah I know there is a lot of inter-team dating. They are extremely successful.

Now the US men's team? I am not sure what they do to those guys or if they just do a bad job selecting them. The men are extremely boring to watch. They lack creativity. They look like they are miserable. They look like they dislike each other. And they consistently get their tails kicked by tiny countries with tiny budgets. Failure on a big scale.

SOCCER UNDERWATER (Girls♡) makes drowning a success.

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The US women are pretty exciting to watch in my opinion. They look like they are having fun. They are aren't super creative but they are extremely skilled. They look like they all enjoy each other - yeah I know there is a lot of inter-team dating. They are extremely successful.

Now the US men's team? I am not sure what they do to those guys or if they just do a bad job selecting them. The men are extremely boring to watch. They lack creativity. They look like they are miserable. They look like they dislike each other. And they consistently get their tails kicked by tiny countries with tiny budgets. Failure on a big scale.

The USMNT is awful. They have been getting worse and worse.

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The attorneys for the women must have been so happy to read that filing. The USSF lawyers handed them the win on a silver platter.

Now they just need to manage the clock and not make any unforced errors.

Take it to the corner flag and start counting your money.