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College Player being invited as well!
Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe Roster and the prospectus posted were not written as opinion by anyone. They are taken from the official page of the club.
If they want to denigrate themselves in your opinion, so be it.
Just stay cool, don't inflate 2 games to a career, a call up to USNT playing a match in europe during a period of diminished talent available as 'arriving'.
10 years from today will reveal if it was a false dawn or just the start of an stellar career.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI did not think Germany beat Brazil because they are physically bigger. That comment was made in response to the previous poster's comment about not ever seeing blowouts on the men's side.
Soccer as a mainstream sport in America is fairly recent. If you want to say it has been mainstream since 1930 then go for it.
Of course, Rubio or Chad would be able to take on Tiffeny 1 on 1 in her prime. I would assume all MLS players could take and beat any female players.
The most accomplished player to come out of Oregon is Tiffeny.
Your other points - Rubio being unable to make the hs track or football team and that Tiffeny was a 3 sports star are irrelevant when assessing them as soccer players. Pirlo probably might not make the HS track team either, or for that matter survive preseason training for the Linfield men's team - doesn't change the fact he is a brilliant soccer player.
What Tiffeny achieved is tremendous. Rubio is fighting in a global pool of specialist (i.e. people who have devoted themselves to the sport from a very early age with tremendous amounts of $ and resources devoted to their development) - in that regard a brace against Brazil + starting as a teenager in the Eredivisie is a pretty significant accomplishment.Last edited by Slow Xavi; 08-29-2014, 07:08 PM.
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Stay Humble
Stay Hungry and Improve.
Jurgen Klinsman cut Landon Donavan and fielded a team that allowed a GK to become famous for being shelled and in the process set a record for Saves that is now the all time record for a World Cup GK.
Time will tell.
Professional sports is a roller coaster ride for most if not all.
All time bests in any sport or profession have a body of work over 10 to 20 year careers.
After 2 professional games your usually called a rookie and neophyte.
Potential and Promise perhaps.
All Time best?
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Originally posted by Slow Xavi View PostYou made some comments about athletes not playing soccer past middle school, that boys just started playing soccer 25 years . . . that is inaccurate as least with respect to certain ethnic groups in this country and probably inaccurate for middle-class white kids in some parts of the country since the 70s.
Your other points - Rubio being unable to make the hs track or football team and that Tiffeny was a 3 sports star are irrelevant when assessing them as soccer players. Pirlo probably might not make the HS track team either, or for that matter survive preseason training for the Linfield men's team - doesn't change the fact he is a brilliant soccer player.
What Tiffeny achieved is tremendous. Rubio is fighting in a global pool of specialist (i.e. people who have devoted themselves to the sport from a very early age with tremendous amounts of $ and resources devoted to their development) - in that regard a brace against Brazil + starting as a teenager in the Eredivisie is a pretty significant accomplishment.
You missed the whole argument about who is the best soccer player out of Oregon. You need to look at the entire body of work.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostAll you need to do is go back 25 years and take a look at high school soccer and club soccer. Of course there were a few people playing. More power to you if you want to argue that is was popular with the ethnic population.
You missed the whole argument about who is the best soccer player out of Oregon. You need to look at the entire body of work.
I Agree Tiffeny is the most accomplished Oregon soccer player . . . but when you ask who is the best it is very difficult to compare men to women.
Now ready to move on to how Stoke beat City today and United drew again.
Cheers!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe Roster and the prospectus posted were not written as opinion by anyone. They are taken from the official page of the club.
If they want to denigrate themselves in your opinion, so be it.
Just stay cool, don't inflate 2 games to a career, a call up to USNT playing a match in europe during a period of diminished talent available as 'arriving'.
10 years from today will reveal if it was a false dawn or just the start of an stellar career.
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Remember
People never remember the early days of any soccer career or how good someone was as a youngster vs other youngsters.
Once he moves on to a prolific team in a prolific league then let's see how he does.
Jozy Altidore scored nearly 40 goals in that league and can't get off the bench at Sunderland today.
Wishing him the best but please temper your rush to judgement. It's too soon. for his sake.
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Rubin is now a solid starter for his club team. Called up for USMNT again. Hopefully he'll play this time.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostRubin is now a solid starter for his club team. Called up for USMNT again. Hopefully he'll play this time.
Tiffeny has 100 goals in women's international competition.
Maybe we should wait until Rubio gets in 100 minutes total on the US MNT before we start declaring him the best player to come out of Oregon.
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Apples and oranges. Calm down, nobody is questioning that Tiffany was a great player, but it's really a different comparison.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostApples and oranges. Calm down, nobody is questioning that Tiffany was a great player, but it's really a different comparison.
You are right. There is no comparison. Rubio has not done anything yet on the men's team and should not even be in the conversation based on current accomplishments vs. other players.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe topic was "best soccer player to come out of Oregon"
You are right. There is no comparison. Rubio has not done anything yet on the men's team and should not even be in the conversation based on current accomplishments vs. other players.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy not? We're talking about talent, not a lifetime achievement award. Playing regularly in Europe and getting a call up is more than all but a few Oregon players have ever done. Plus, we're comparing men to men, not men to women.
Of course you need to talk about achievement when you talk about the best player from Oregon. Don't be so stupid.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostIf you are just talking about talent then there are plenty of players from Oregon who just as talented as Rubio who may not have gotten the opportunity.
Of course you need to talk about achievement when you talk about the best player from Oregon. Don't be so stupid.
Making and then becoming a regular on a European professional team and getting two call ups to the USMNT by age 18 is high achievement. Who else from Oregon has done it?
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