Birth year crazy!!!...

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Come on, baseball and many sports have different cut off dates for birthdays. USSF can change the rules on birthday cutoffs but I agree it must ensure its rules cause no discrimination. Thus, USSF ought to be having anyone under it like USYSA to have a U18/U19 grouping to help be able to provide opportunities for the Sept-Dec trapped seniors to play on teams their senior year. This should not be a hardship for teams playing in USYSA leagues. They should also manadate that players having player passes under any of its affiliates (like though USYSA or US Club) have to provide year round soccer instruction for all players (except in summer), or those players not be given player passes.

Problem is the 18/19 teams will be a combo of A and B players. No disrespect to the B players. This trickles right on down no matter how big or small the club. This birth year change was obviously not thought through well. Or at least under estimated the response of its members.

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Problem is the 18/19 teams will be a combo of A and B players. No disrespect to the B players. This trickles right on down no matter how big or small the club. This birth year change was obviously not thought through well. Or at least under estimated the response of its members.

Birth year change has to be the stupidest thing USSF has done to date...why can't they get this right. Increase practice game ratio. More small sided is right on. They take two steps forward and three back.

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Birth year change has to be the stupidest thing USSF has done to date...why can't they get this right. Increase practice game ratio. More small sided is right on. They take two steps forward and three back.

Clubs are starting to roll out info and are having a hard time explaining why this is good for development...because it's not! Many behind the scenes are not happy about this change and are trying to see if this can be reversed.

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Clubs are starting to roll out info and are having a hard time explaining why this is good for development...because it's not! Many behind the scenes are not happy about this change and are trying to see if this can be reversed.

Some teams are staying together. Example- 99 named with 00 playing up. Then most players graduate together.

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Some teams are staying together. Example- 99 named with 00 playing up. Then most players graduate together.

Wouldn't it be funny/pathetic if most decided to just have their teams play up instead of following the mandate? Kind of defeats the purpose eh?

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Wouldn't it be funny/pathetic if most decided to just have their teams play up instead of following the mandate? Kind of defeats the purpose eh?

I know one club is leaing all teams that are 01/02 and up together. They are going to try to keep the younger ones somewhat the same as far as grade year with teams with fewer number of kids playing up in their A teams but it will essentially keep 12 players at grade level so it doesn't lose a team that transitions to 9th grade and keeps its core team for the senior year.

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Wouldn't it be funny/pathetic if most decided to just have their teams play up instead of following the mandate? Kind of defeats the purpose eh?

That is up to leagues to decide. many leagues have play up roster limits. Kids further along in their playing careers can play up and that would be fine, but the rising U9 and U10s on down will just be fine. Again, this will just become normal. Could US Soccer have simply phased it in? Sure, but they chose to rip the band aid off. All will be fine, this is an extracurricular activity folks!

There are other ways to take ownership of your kids soccer development if you are so concerned.

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Some teams are staying together. Example- 99 named with 00 playing up. Then most players graduate together.

Yep...our team will lose some players to DA this year, but we are keeping our team together and rather than replace the two 04s with 04's they are going to add two fall 03's that are good players. So our roster stays grade level with 5 "04's playing up with 11 03's. This will keep the team intact for the two years that would be issues.

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Yep...our team will lose some players to DA this year, but we are keeping our team together and rather than replace the two 04s with 04's they are going to add two fall 03's that are good players. So our roster stays grade level with 5 "04's playing up with 11 03's. This will keep the team intact for the two years that would be issues.

Amazing, a group of people solved a perceived problem without the sky falling!!

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That is up to leagues to decide. many leagues have play up roster limits. Kids further along in their playing careers can play up and that would be fine, but the rising U9 and U10s on down will just be fine. Again, this will just become normal. Could US Soccer have simply phased it in? Sure, but they chose to rip the band aid off. All will be fine, this is an extracurricular activity folks!

There are other ways to take ownership of your kids soccer development if you are so concerned.

Not really. The younger kids will still have the issue of transiting years from 8th to 9th and 11th to 12th grade. The flaws with the change doesn't just go away over time. It will hit these fall born kids the same way.

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Wow, way to prove my point about the quality of your life and your lack of priorities as you immediately responded to my post.

USSF and FL Soccer are 501 c3's listed as Educational Non-Profits, and thus subject to Title IX of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance.

The specific protected class would be U6, U7, U8, U9, U10, U11, etc... females.

USSF by making waivers to the DA program in regards to the new age matrix has already shown the court that the birth year age change does not meet their appropriate goal.

USSF and FL Soccer receive federal money.

Have a great night and hopefully you'll get your priorities straight.

Ok thank you for responding to my one and only post on this thread. So much for your theory about my living on ts.

Here is the question for Mr Lawyer - why are you wasting time arguing with me about this? You are a lawyer
You are convinced you have a great case
You love your sympathetic protected class of kids
You love the deep pockets of the USSF
You have a captive audience on this thread, a large portion of which would love to be involved in your big lawsuit

So

Why dont you put up:
Tell us who you are including contact info of your firm
Sign up lots of clients through this thread
Make crazy money off your dream lawsuit
Be the hero of every Aug-Dec kid and their parents

I think we all know why we hear only crickets....you are just a lying idiot

We do agree on one thing, arguing with you is time wasted. If you provide ANY of the contact info in response, we can continue our legal debate, and get to the real fallacies of your dream case. But you won't be doing that, now will you, mr non-lawyer?

Out for good.

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Not really. The younger kids will still have the issue of transiting years from 8th to 9th and 11th to 12th grade. The flaws with the change doesn't just go away over time. It will hit these fall born kids the same way.

Give clubs time to sort it out. Again, high school kids who do not make a high school team do not get to play soccer for a season either and you don't seem to concerned about that ongoing problem. So seriously stop being a hypocrite.

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Yep...our team will lose some players to DA this year, but we are keeping our team together and rather than replace the two 04s with 04's they are going to add two fall 03's that are good players. So our roster stays grade level with 5 "04's playing up with 11 03's. This will keep the team intact for the two years that would be issues.

I am hearing more and more that teams will try to stay together and only make slight changes to keep teams grade level. Think about it. Why would clubs go all in when they could lose a lot of money if they can't accommodate kids during 8th and 12th grade. Minor modifications to teams to keep them grade level will end up being what most will do long term. It just makes good sense for the kids and even better sense from a financial/business sense.

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Give clubs time to sort it out. Again, high school kids who do not make a high school team do not get to play soccer for a season either and you don't seem to concerned about that ongoing problem. So seriously stop being a hypocrite.

That issue already exists, the kid tryout and doesn't make. They are not just abandoned for no reason. Plus, those kids get to play the rest of the year with their club team and really its not that many who don't make the HS team. Come on already.

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That issue already exists, the kid tryout and doesn't make. They are not just abandoned for no reason. Plus, those kids get to play the rest of the year with their club team and really its not that many who don't make the HS team. Come on already.

I agree. Club is 10 months and HS is only 3 months. All kids get on a team in Club. And again, the issue is not what happens in high school. If your kid is interested in going to College to play and is a boy, this really hurts many their senior year.