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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Spot on. Often times merit money for good grades at any school is much greater than athletic money. Also, athletic money is for one year only and can easily disappear the next. It is foolish to chase only D1 athletic scholarships - buyer beware. That's why it's good for players to have a good mix of options to choose from when it comes to decision time. Each will have pros and cons and hopefully they can find what will work best for them 1) academically 2) financially 3) athletically. Yes I intentionally put athletics last for a reason - because in the end it doesn't matter except for the rare talent who MIGHT make it into the pros
    I agree that it is foolish to chase only a d1 scholarship but the academic scholarship picture isn't quite as rosy as you make it out to be.

    Academic scholarships at good schools are hard to come by - just like with athletic scholarships, the further below your abilities you go the more likely you are to get good money - in other words, you may still be sacrificing academics to get money. Also, many of the best schools (eg Ivy's, some NESCACs, etc) have no academic scholarships. All aid is need based.

    Academic scholarships are not guaranteed for four years either. They often have very strict academic standards - making keeping your scholarship just as difficult as keeping an athletic scholarship.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      But if in your infinite wisdom they can't get a good education because of the horrid demands of the "full-time job," what then?
      Crickets...of course.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I agree that it is foolish to chase only a d1 scholarship but the academic scholarship picture isn't quite as rosy as you make it out to be.

        Academic scholarships at good schools are hard to come by - just like with athletic scholarships, the further below your abilities you go the more likely you are to get good money - in other words, you may still be sacrificing academics to get money. Also, many of the best schools (eg Ivy's, some NESCACs, etc) have no academic scholarships. All aid is need based.

        Academic scholarships are not guaranteed for four years either. They often have very strict academic standards - making keeping your scholarship just as difficult as keeping an athletic scholarship.
        False. The bar for maintaining a merit scholarship which is guaranteed for all 4 years generally is pretty low, like 3.0 at most and sometimes lower.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          False. The bar for maintaining a merit scholarship which is guaranteed for all 4 years generally is pretty low, like 3.0 at most and sometimes lower.
          Not all that different from maintaining your spot on the roster. If you pick your situation well, it might even be easier.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Crickets...of course.
            Stupid statement begging for a response.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Not all that different from maintaining your spot on the roster. If you pick your situation well, it might even be easier.
              No kidding. At least you've got a bit more control over your academic performance. Most professors will grade based on merit and won't give you an F if a new Freshman comes into the class. That's not the case in sports. Besides those stronger grades help land the internships and then jobs, grad school, career...

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                Academic Snob! The Umass system, has a great reputation in a number of areas of study. The in state tuition cost, is no more than $12,000 a year, and most are less. That is a steal in today's economic environment.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  No kidding. At least you've got a bit more control over your academic performance. Most professors will grade based on merit and won't give you an F if a new Freshman comes into the class. That's not the case in sports. Besides those stronger grades help land the internships and then jobs, grad school, career...
                  If you are an A student are you really worrying about the prof giving you an F? The only ones that usually have something to worry about in this type of situation are the bubble players. It often seems like some people here think roster moves get made in a vacuum. They don't. Any coach worth their salt gives players feedback so they all generally know where they stand on the team and no one gets blind sided by anything. What we are really talking about is a player who just can't play at the level of program they are in and that situation is not all that much different than a kid pulling all C's sweating out their academic scholarship threshold. The question really is did they belong there in the first place.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    If you are an A student are you really worrying about the prof giving you an F? The only ones that usually have something to worry about in this type of situation are the bubble players. It often seems like some people here think roster moves get made in a vacuum. They don't. Any coach worth their salt gives players feedback so they all generally know where they stand on the team and no one gets blind sided by anything. What we are really talking about is a player who just can't play at the level of program they are in and that situation is not all that much different than a kid pulling all C's sweating out their academic scholarship threshold. The question really is did they belong there in the first place.
                    More duplicity. No one gets blind-sided except for when you are posting about D1 commitments where all the players overshot and somehow fooled the coaches into giving them roster spots and money. Please, make up your mind and stop shifting every 5 seconds in concert with your agenda du jour.

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                      The discussion was about players losing their scholarship money. If you make a good decision by not over committing the point is really a non issue. The only ones that typically have to worry about who the coach recruits are the bubble kids that probably don't belong there in the first place. The tough thing for them is they do get feedback all the time except theirs is they aren't measuring up. That's pressure.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The discussion was about players losing their scholarship money. If you make a good decision by not over committing the point is really a non issue. The only ones that typically have to worry about who the coach recruits are the bubble kids that probably don't belong there in the first place. The tough thing for them is they do get feedback all the time except theirs is they aren't measuring up. That's pressure.
                        And why do the coaches make offers to these kids whom you believe should never be at those schools? Does JD intimidate the college D1 coaches? And you more than anyone should know that there are no guarantees even for projected sure-fire recruits. That van get injured, lose motivation, get turned on by a philosophy class, fall in love, etc, etc. Even at the lowly D3 level many projected top-tier players flame out. And sometimes it's the so-called "bubble" players who rise to the challenge.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          And why do the coaches make offers to these kids whom you believe should never be at those schools? Does JD intimidate the college D1 coaches? And you more than anyone should know that there are no guarantees even for projected sure-fire recruits. That van get injured, lose motivation, get turned on by a philosophy class, fall in love, etc, etc. Even at the lowly D3 level many projected top-tier players flame out. And sometimes it's the so-called "bubble" players who rise to the challenge.
                          Who is taking this in the Stars direction?

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Who is taking this in the Stars direction?
                            Come on, now, don't a liar all the time. You love talking about that topic and beat it into the ground every day. Why avoiding the questions? Come on, tell us again about he nuances in approach to recruiting and commitment by the various clubs. Seminar, infomercial, spinfest, whatever you want to call it.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              And why do the coaches make offers to these kids whom you believe should never be at those schools? Does JD intimidate the college D1 coaches? And you more than anyone should know that there are no guarantees even for projected sure-fire recruits. That van get injured, lose motivation, get turned on by a philosophy class, fall in love, etc, etc. Even at the lowly D3 level many projected top-tier players flame out. And sometimes it's the so-called "bubble" players who rise to the challenge.
                              Who said these players are getting much from the coaches? Most of the time these are the bottom of the roster types that are just fodder for the team. They are a dime a dozen and don't get much in the way of offers.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Come on, now, don't a liar all the time. You love talking about that topic and beat it into the ground every day. Why avoiding the questions? Come on, tell us again about he nuances in approach to recruiting and commitment by the various clubs. Seminar, infomercial, spinfest, whatever you want to call it.
                                Someone is doing an awful lot of protesting. Could this be cutting a little too close to the vest?

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