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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Rape?

    Jeebus H. Cripes, you need some perspective.
    That isn't really a response to the poster's points.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      That isn't really a response to the poster's points.
      Many of the poster's points are way overstated. While OYSA needs to remain an independent nonprofit, I don't have that much of a problem with them subcontracting operations to the Timbers, or anyone else. There have been far too many schisms and competing leagues and fracturing of the game in Oregon over the years, as soccer has grown from a niche sport, and far too many egos. The reason the Timbers were able to get their foot in the door in the first place is one such schism, that left OYSA badly weakened, and many of the parties who now whine about Peregrine's involvement seem to be those who bolted in the first place. You reap what you sow, and all that.

      If the Timbers have enough institutional heft to keep rival clubs and hostile coaching directors from trying to shank each other in the back room, then #rctid.

      But describing the Timbers relationship with OYSA as akin to a sexual assault is patently absurd.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Many of the poster's points are way overstated. While OYSA needs to remain an independent nonprofit, I don't have that much of a problem with them subcontracting operations to the Timbers, or anyone else. There have been far too many schisms and competing leagues and fracturing of the game in Oregon over the years, as soccer has grown from a niche sport, and far too many egos. The reason the Timbers were able to get their foot in the door in the first place is one such schism, that left OYSA badly weakened, and many of the parties who now whine about Peregrine's involvement seem to be those who bolted in the first place. You reap what you sow, and all that.

        If the Timbers have enough institutional heft to keep rival clubs and hostile coaching directors from trying to shank each other in the back room, then #rctid.

        But describing the Timbers relationship with OYSA as akin to a sexual assault is patently absurd.


        I do agree with you in many ways. But one thing that most people don't know is that there are huge profits made running the leagues. Hundreds of thousands of dollars per year of net profit. The promise of the OPL was that they were going to give that money back to kids and families through development opportunities and clinics and coaching education. That was a mixed bag ended with them giving clubs free league fees at the end which amounted to huge infusions of cash.

        What are the Timbers doing with those massive profits? Why did they increase the league fees this year?

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          #34
          Trade Adi, trade Melano, then we can start talking about finding some attacking talked that has their head on straight.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Trade Adi, trade Melano, then we can start talking about finding some attacking TALENT that has their head on straight.
            Talent, attacking talent.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Many of the poster's points are way overstated. While OYSA needs to remain an independent nonprofit, I don't have that much of a problem with them subcontracting operations to the Timbers, or anyone else. There have been far too many schisms and competing leagues and fracturing of the game in Oregon over the years, as soccer has grown from a niche sport, and far too many egos. The reason the Timbers were able to get their foot in the door in the first place is one such schism, that left OYSA badly weakened, and many of the parties who now whine about Peregrine's involvement seem to be those who bolted in the first place. You reap what you sow, and all that.

              If the Timbers have enough institutional heft to keep rival clubs and hostile coaching directors from trying to shank each other in the back room, then #rctid.

              But describing the Timbers relationship with OYSA as akin to a sexual assault is patently absurd.
              I had 0 to do with the OPL - still think the status quo stinks, or at minimum the Timbers need to be watched like a hawk. Subcontracting isn't the issue - conflicts and apparent completely unilateral right to set prices (with a monopoly) is.

              Timbers have done nothing to prevent hostile DOCs from shanking each other - the return to OYSA was but 1 such move in a long line (that continues today).

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Are you ok? It's just youth soccer. Relax friend.
                Not OP, are you OK with this miserable and corrupt state of affairs at all levels of youth soccer in Oregon?

                Glad someone is fired up about it, now how to make a change?


                The clueless can Relax and Carry on of course.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Many of the poster's points are way overstated. While OYSA needs to remain an independent nonprofit, I don't have that much of a problem with them subcontracting operations to the Timbers, or anyone else. There have been far too many schisms and competing leagues and fracturing of the game in Oregon over the years, as soccer has grown from a niche sport, and far too many egos. The reason the Timbers were able to get their foot in the door in the first place is one such schism, that left OYSA badly weakened, and many of the parties who now whine about Peregrine's involvement seem to be those who bolted in the first place. You reap what you sow, and all that.

                  If the Timbers have enough institutional heft to keep rival clubs and hostile coaching directors from trying to shank each other in the back room, then #rctid.

                  But describing the Timbers relationship with OYSA as akin to a sexual assault is patently absurd.
                  The OYSA isn't subcontracting labor to Peregrine. That's not what's happening here OYSA member teams and families are paying Peregrine directly for OYSA mission based services. That is unethical and not very transparent for a non-profit.

                  The only rival coach still with an AXE to grind with our collection of DOC's tools is the ole (ESU DOC) GW.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    The Timbers are MLS champs so, by default, you are a dumbass.
                    MLS Cup champs - the 4th most important championship available for MLS teams - way behind the CONCACAF Champions League, MLS Supporters Shield, and US Open Cup.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      MLS Cup champs - the 4th most important championship available for MLS teams - way behind the CONCACAF Champions League, MLS Supporters Shield, and US Open Cup.
                      Have you been to a CONCACAF CL game? US open Cup game? Nobody goes because nobody cares. They aren't even televised, just streamed by some dude with a home camcorder.

                      Supporters shield gets celebrated with golf claps by crowd and a few high fives by players. Nobody wants to be too comfortable with that because the main goal is the playoffs and championship.

                      For everyone except the one guy on here.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Have you been to a CONCACAF CL game? US open Cup game? Nobody goes because nobody cares. They aren't even televised, just streamed by some dude with a home camcorder.

                        Supporters shield gets celebrated with golf claps by crowd and a few high fives by players. Nobody wants to be too comfortable with that because the main goal is the playoffs and championship.

                        For everyone except the one guy on here.
                        Noone pays attention to CL games because MLS teams do horribly in it, generally. When Montreal made a run a couple years back, there was a big time following in the latter games.

                        Honestly, not many folks watch the MLS championship - stadium will sellout, but ratings are generally abysmal and aren't trending the right way.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Have you been to a CONCACAF CL game? US open Cup game? Nobody goes because nobody cares. They aren't even televised, just streamed by some dude with a home camcorder.

                          Supporters shield gets celebrated with golf claps by crowd and a few high fives by players. Nobody wants to be too comfortable with that because the main goal is the playoffs and championship.

                          For everyone except the one guy on here.
                          Doesn't matter that you don't watch those games, they are still much higher level and much more prestigious competitions than the 4th tier MLS Cup. Winning MLS Cup is like winning OYSA Presidents Cup, it's OK but it's not significant.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Noone pays attention to CL games because MLS teams do horribly in it, generally. When Montreal made a run a couple years back, there was a big time following in the latter games.

                            Honestly, not many folks watch the MLS championship - stadium will sellout, but ratings are generally abysmal and aren't trending the right way.
                            Exactly, There were 60,000+ at the "Big O" for the Montreal CCL games. But Portlanders can be proud of winning the 4th tier MLS Cup - after all it makes them feel like they won "something"...

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Have you been to a CONCACAF CL game? US open Cup game? Nobody goes because nobody cares. They aren't even televised, just streamed by some dude with a home camcorder.

                              Supporters shield gets celebrated with golf claps by crowd and a few high fives by players. Nobody wants to be too comfortable with that because the main goal is the playoffs and championship.

                              For everyone except the one guy on here.

                              Yep. Just one weird guy on here that gets excited for CONCACAF and US open games.

                              Mls teams always rest their starters for those games and the B team players usually get some action.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Yep. Just one weird guy on here that gets excited for CONCACAF and US open games.

                                Mls teams always rest their starters for those games and the B team players usually get some action.
                                Just because the soccer is terrible and no one watches the games doesn't mean the CONCACAF games aren't great. It's like watching d1 college soccer with 300 people in attendance. It's still fun if weather is nice.

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