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out:
(hopefully at half)
Klinnsman and entire coaching staff.
Yedlin
Jones
Wood
Zardes
in:
Anyone without cement feet who knows you pass to your own team.
...and by all means keep these refs. US soccer has paid them well.
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OP is a fool
Looks like another johnny come lately to the soccer scene gives another bogus opinion.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostLooks like another johnny come lately to the soccer scene gives another bogus opinion.
Garber/Paulson/every ex-Cub now Timbers fan who thinks soccer started in this country when MLS launched notwithstanding, Klinsmann's voice is important (even if he isn't the most brilliant tactician).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostKlinsmann draws the ire of every MLS fanboy in this country, because he has the balls to say what he thinks - MLS is **** and national team isn't going anywhere if US's top players play here in lieu of top clubs in Europe.
Garber/Paulson/every ex-Cub now Timbers fan who thinks soccer started in this country when MLS launched notwithstanding, Klinsmann's voice is important (even if he isn't the most brilliant tactician).
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMostly agree, but the problem with US soccer go deeper than MLS. By the time players are 23 and ready for the pros, it's often too late.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostMostly agree, but the problem with US soccer go deeper than MLS. By the time players are 23 and ready for the pros, it's often too late.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhy we need the system to support more than 20+ MLS teams - we need 100 strong pro clubs and thousands of strong clubs. US Soccer has spent the last 20 years trying to nurture MLS so that it can attract and retain billionaire investors in MLS - time for that league to get off of the couch of US Soccer (and the latter to be supporting the entire ecosystem).
If you go to Europe or Mexico, every burg of any significant size has a local pro club, that makes money. Most of 'em are staffed with players who who never play in a first-class league, but these things exist.
We don't have that in the US.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSince someone mentioned minor-league baseball--what we need is a soccer culture in which minor-league clubs, at lower levels of the pyramid, are more viable. Would T2 survive, for instance, as a separate entity? Could cities such as Eugene or Salem (which have single-A baseball teams) support a USL team that isn't bankrolled by the Timbers? Could we have pro teams in markets like Bend (which used to have the Rockies; and many single-A teams are found in similar-sized cities)?
If you go to Europe or Mexico, every burg of any significant size has a local pro club, that makes money. Most of 'em are staffed with players who who never play in a first-class league, but these things exist.
We don't have that in the US.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostI think clubs in Bend, Salem, Eugene could have grown with the right support from US Soccer . . . wonder if alliance essentially kills that possibility.
(Of course, in Europe, having adult pro teams running youth systems--and receiving compensation for players they develop who play pro elsewhere, is also part of the system--many here seem outraged that the Timbers are involved in youth soccer).
There are, of course, plenty of high-quality competitive adult teams around--but the vast majority of those are not "professional" in the sense that the players are deriving an income from play. And even things like T2 or the U23s often have a hard time giving away tickets, whereas the Hillsboro Hops are (AFAIK) a financially-sound operation, and would likely remain so even if a MLB or AAA team were to move to Portland.
(It also hurts the U23s that they play many of their home games at THPRD, which is an alcohol-free facility. Overpriced beer and rowdy fans are part of the formula that makes minor-league sports work, after all...)
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