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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Nobody does RTC/ODP after U10. Less and less are showing up. It's mostly rec players.
    On the boys side, it's the pathway to the Timbers Academy and academy players generally move on to D1 schools. So it's not a bad idea to be involved in RTC/ODP for a competitive level of play and possible interest by the Timbers Academy. The academy still needs to work on some things such as creating a residential program, however, it still draws many college scouts.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Nobody does RTC/ODP after U10. Less and less are showing up. It's mostly rec players.
      This is true. There are girls in our regional RTC pool who were cut from our club's B team. And I think the reason why it's gotten cheaper is because they are so desperate to fill those rosters.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Everyone complains about the coaching at RTC/ODP. But you have to understand it is very hard to recruit coaches, much less good coaches. In a lot of cases you just need a warm body to fill the position.
        Understandable. So give them a break.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          This is true. There are girls in our regional RTC pool who were cut from our club's B team. And I think the reason why it's gotten cheaper is because they are so desperate to fill those rosters.
          Girls soccer is so bad in Oregon that it really doesn't matter. The A team players suck compared to other states, so if the A team players don't go out, who cares. ECNL is where the parents go now to throw away their money.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Expensive? It's $333. And gear is included. Your kid must have been cut. Yeah, go get some private lessons and some speed training. Work that fat off of them.
            That's $333 you'll never get back and never see any ROI on either, except maybe negative ROI.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              On the boys side, it's the pathway to the Timbers Academy and academy players generally move on to D1 schools. So it's not a bad idea to be involved in RTC/ODP for a competitive level of play and possible interest by the Timbers Academy. The academy still needs to work on some things such as creating a residential program, however, it still draws many college scouts.
              If the Timbers Academy is moving lots of players on to college, then it is a complete FAILURE. The purpose of the Academy is to develop players to play professional soccer for the Timbers, not to leave the Timbers organization for college.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                If the Timbers Academy is moving lots of players on to college, then it is a complete FAILURE. The purpose of the Academy is to develop players to play professional soccer for the Timbers, not to leave the Timbers organization for college.
                Only if ALL of the best players are leaving for college. If some are staying and working towards being on the Timbers, then it isn't a failure. You are bound to have some kids who, by the time they are 17 or 18, realize that pro soccer isn't what they want and decide to play in college and get an education. You have the same thing happen in girls soccer. Promising players who are on top teams suddenly at 16 or 17 just call it quits rather than to continue to pursue a soccer scholarship.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Only if ALL of the best players are leaving for college. If some are staying and working towards being on the Timbers, then it isn't a failure. You are bound to have some kids who, by the time they are 17 or 18, realize that pro soccer isn't what they want and decide to play in college and get an education. You have the same thing happen in girls soccer. Promising players who are on top teams suddenly at 16 or 17 just call it quits rather than to continue to pursue a soccer scholarship.
                  Yes, and many players coming out of academy are not ready physically to play at the professional level. College soccer gives them more time to get stronger, and some players eventually sign with their academy club.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    That's $333 you'll never get back and never see any ROI on either, except maybe negative ROI.
                    Wait, do you really think money spent on youth soccer is an investment? LMFAO ... you guys are too much. It's an investment in your child's enjoyment maybe, but beyond that if you think you're going to see any "return" from spending money on pay-to-play soccer you're kidding yourself. Sure maybe your kid will get a partial scholarship if he/she is really good and lucky, and that will be a net ROI of -$1000's

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Wait, do you really think money spent on youth soccer is an investment? LMFAO ... you guys are too much. It's an investment in your child's enjoyment maybe, but beyond that if you think you're going to see any "return" from spending money on pay-to-play soccer you're kidding yourself. Sure maybe your kid will get a partial scholarship if he/she is really good and lucky, and that will be a net ROI of -$1000's
                      You need to stop with your sensible comments. Many posters on this forum think that winning State Cup at u-little is the pinnacle of accomplishments in one's life.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Only if ALL of the best players are leaving for college. If some are staying and working towards being on the Timbers, then it isn't a failure. You are bound to have some kids who, by the time they are 17 or 18, realize that pro soccer isn't what they want and decide to play in college and get an education. You have the same thing happen in girls soccer. Promising players who are on top teams suddenly at 16 or 17 just call it quits rather than to continue to pursue a soccer scholarship.
                        Well, since Portland Timbers are the ONLY team in the MLS with ZERO homegrown players on their roster...

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Wait, do you really think money spent on youth soccer is an investment? LMFAO ... you guys are too much. It's an investment in your child's enjoyment maybe, but beyond that if you think you're going to see any "return" from spending money on pay-to-play soccer you're kidding yourself. Sure maybe your kid will get a partial scholarship if he/she is really good and lucky, and that will be a net ROI of -$1000's
                          ROI in terms of skills improved per dollar. With ODP/RTC it's definitely a negative.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            RTC is good for 10 year olds. Parent bragging rights. Kids feel special have have not been cut from the pool. But the coaching isn't great. And it's expensive. After 10 years old, there is literally no benefit. Take it from someone who wasted the time, money and energy on RTC/ODP for years. Missed a lot of spring breaks and memorial day vacations to stay home for the lame tournaments.

                            You would be much better working with a good skills trainer and doing speed work.
                            So your saying your child didn't make it because they lack skills and are slow

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              RTC is good for 10 year olds. Parent bragging rights. Kids feel special have have not been cut from the pool. But the coaching isn't great. And it's expensive. After 10 years old, there is literally no benefit. Take it from someone who wasted the time, money and energy on RTC/ODP for years. Missed a lot of spring breaks and memorial day vacations to stay home for the lame tournaments.

                              You would be much better working with a good skills trainer and doing speed work.
                              Right on the money.

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Right on the money.
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