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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    What did Obama do? He went with the entire EU in wanting a corrupt prosecutor removed from office? A prosecutor who wasn't even investigating Hunter Biden at the time anyway? Biden's son using his name to get a cushy job? Not illegal and certainly no worse than Jared and Ivanka working IN THE WH, or the entire family not putting Trump Inc into a blind trust. If Trump was so worried about Ukrainian corruption (which magically only showed on his radar AFTER Biden announced he was running) why did he remove the US Ambassador who was recognized as helping Ukraine fight corruption?
    I asked where is the abuse of power? Whether Obama felt justified does not change the fact that foreign aid was used as leverage for a desired out. Classic example of a quid pro quo.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I asked where is the abuse of power? Whether Obama felt justified does not change the fact that foreign aid was used as leverage for a desired out. Classic example of a quid pro quo.
      It was something that benefited entire nations, most especially Ukraine, not Obama or Macron or Merkle PERSONALLY. See the difference?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        It was something that benefited entire nations, most especially Ukraine, not Obama or Macron or Merkle PERSONALLY. See the difference?
        It as also all out in the open. Trump's actions were not - it only came to light because of a whistleblower. If what Trump was doing was justified, why the secrecy? Why did it happen only after Biden announced he was running? Trump wouldn't have been able to find Ukraine on a map until he thought the struggling nation might help him get kompromat on his leading opponent.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          It was something that benefited entire nations, most especially Ukraine, not Obama or Macron or Merkle PERSONALLY. See the difference?
          I just see your spin. Do you think it helped Biden? Hmm we will never know. No wonder Schitz won’t give up Biden. What’s he afraid of? If there’s nothing there, why is working so hard to protect him? Gee, maybe he doesn’t want to reveal that level of corruption during his impeachment of Trump. You see the difference? Of course not. Once again, where’s the abuse of power? All you’re giving us is a bunch of whataboutisms.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            It as also all out in the open. Trump's actions were not - it only came to light because of a whistleblower. If what Trump was doing was justified, why the secrecy? Why did it happen only after Biden announced he was running? Trump wouldn't have been able to find Ukraine on a map until he thought the struggling nation might help him get kompromat on his leading opponent.
            Lol, all out in the open? Yeah right, the world didn’t know about it until the creepy hair sniffer bragged about it of national TV. Secrecy? He released the transcript for everyone to see. You know the same one that Schitz lied to the American people about by reading his own doctored transcript. Try again.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I just see your spin. Do you think it helped Biden? Hmm we will never know. No wonder Schitz won’t give up Biden. What’s he afraid of? If there’s nothing there, why is working so hard to protect him? Gee, maybe he doesn’t want to reveal that level of corruption during his impeachment of Trump. You see the difference? Of course not. Once again, where’s the abuse of power? All you’re giving us is a bunch of whataboutisms.
              How did it help Biden? The prosecutor wasn't investigating Hunter - who had been on the board for almost two years before the international pressure campaign started. Hunter being in the board wasn't illegal either. Good idea? No. But since you mentioned whataboutisms, where do you stand on Ivanka and Jared? Or the fact that Barr, Giuliani and Pompeo all have kids working for the administration?

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                #22
                Here's the deal. None of this matters.

                Republican senators won't vote to impeach no matter what. If video surfaced of Trump directly offering to trade military assets to a foreign power for dirt on a political opponent and then saying he was going to obstruct justices by hiding evidence...they don't care.

                Nobody cares about right and wrong any more.

                They are more concerned about things like killing the Clean Water Act and bringing back coal jobs. They are willing to lay with a liar, thief, adulterer, etc, as long as they get their agenda advanced.

                Ripping immigrant children away from their mom's is considered very positive so they are willing to ignore the fact that Trump cheated on his wife many times and paid the women money to lay with him.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Here's the deal. None of this matters.

                  Republican senators won't vote to impeach no matter what. If video surfaced of Trump directly offering to trade military assets to a foreign power for dirt on a political opponent and then saying he was going to obstruct justices by hiding evidence...they don't care.

                  Nobody cares about right and wrong any more.

                  They are more concerned about things like killing the Clean Water Act and bringing back coal jobs. They are willing to lay with a liar, thief, adulterer, etc, as long as they get their agenda advanced.

                  Ripping immigrant children away from their mom's is considered very positive so they are willing to ignore the fact that Trump cheated on his wife many times and paid the women money to lay with him.
                  😂 Drama Queen!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Here's the deal. None of this matters.

                    Republican senators won't vote to impeach no matter what. If video surfaced of Trump directly offering to trade military assets to a foreign power for dirt on a political opponent and then saying he was going to obstruct justice by hiding evidence...they don't care.

                    Nobody cares about right and wrong any more.

                    They are more concerned about things like killing the Clean Water Act and bringing back coal jobs. They are willing to lay with a liar, thief, adulterer, etc, as long as they get their agenda advanced.

                    Ripping immigrant children away from their mom's is considered very positive so they are willing to ignore the fact that Trump cheated on his wife many times and paid the women money to lay with him.

                    The conservative agenda is more focused on killing the Clean Water Act than worried about Donald laying with women who are not his wife.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Here's the deal. None of this matters.

                      Republican senators won't vote to impeach no matter what. If video surfaced of Trump directly offering to trade military assets to a foreign power for dirt on a political opponent and then saying he was going to obstruct justices by hiding evidence...they don't care.

                      Nobody cares about right and wrong any more.

                      They are more concerned about things like killing the Clean Water Act and bringing back coal jobs. They are willing to lay with a liar, thief, adulterer, etc, as long as they get their agenda advanced.

                      Ripping immigrant children away from their mom's is considered very positive so they are willing to ignore the fact that Trump cheated on his wife many times and paid the women money to lay with him.
                      #voteblue if you want our democracy back, care about the environment, want a rational tax code and fiscal responsibility...

                      Yes you are correct that his base and certain politicians won't go against him no matter what. He's giving them something he wants and his obvious sleaze, graft, lies and crimes don't matter to them. But, he won because he got some independent voters, some suburban voters, some women. Many of those voters are repulsed by what he's done since in office. Are there enough of them to move the swing states blue? It's very possible.

                      A new survey out today shows the top 6 Democratic candidates beating Trump in a general. Yes it's a national poll and none of those are the official candidate yet. But there are electable candidates. Some of them could be made even stronger with a great VP pick.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        #voteblue if you want our democracy back, care about the environment, want a rational tax code and fiscal responsibility...

                        Yes you are correct that his base and certain politicians won't go against him no matter what. He's giving them something he wants and his obvious sleaze, graft, lies and crimes don't matter to them. But, he won because he got some independent voters, some suburban voters, some women. Many of those voters are repulsed by what he's done since in office. Are there enough of them to move the swing states blue? It's very possible.

                        A new survey out today shows the top 6 Democratic candidates beating Trump in a general. Yes it's a national poll and none of those are the official candidate yet. But there are electable candidates. Some of them could be made even stronger with a great VP pick.
                        It's always good to wake up hopeful and happy. Unfortunately for you it's not reality. Trump wins in a landslide. You keep up those positive thoughts. The doom and gloom approach isn't good for your health.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          It's always good to wake up hopeful and happy. Unfortunately for you it's not reality. Trump wins in a landslide. You keep up those positive thoughts. The doom and gloom approach isn't good for your health.
                          ^^^ Somebody hasn't looked at the latest polls

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            The conservative agenda is more focused on killing the Clean Water Act than worried about Donald laying with women who are not his wife.
                            Well, MSNBC hosts Richard Maddow and Chris Hayes are pissed because the Dem Senators are bored and falling asleep during the Senate impeachment trial. Can u blame them? Schitz, Nadler, and the other clowns are competing with Ambien and Melatonin to see who can put the most people asleep. I really thought you guys had rock solid and overwhelming proof. Unfortunately all you brought was conspiracy theories, lies, and conjecture. You guys seemed too desperate and lost your own audience. Even CBS broke off coverage to get back to the soaps. Its a real shame you libtards had to drag the country through this again. History will not be kind! If you include your address I’ll send you all a Trumpy Bear to cuddle with after you lose another election.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Well, MSNBC hosts Richard Maddow and Chris Hayes are pissed because the Dem Senators are bored and falling asleep during the Senate impeachment trial. Can u blame them? Schitz, Nadler, and the other clowns are competing with Ambien and Melatonin to see who can put the most people asleep. I really thought you guys had rock solid and overwhelming proof. Unfortunately all you brought was conspiracy theories, lies, and conjecture. You guys seemed too desperate and lost your own audience. Even CBS broke off coverage to get back to the soaps. Its a real shame you libtards had to drag the country through this again. History will not be kind! If you include your address I’ll send you all a Trumpy Bear to cuddle with after you lose another election.
                              Your favorite "news" network disagrees with you:
                              https://www.salon.com/2020/01/22/fox...ical-standing/

                              This blows up the Trump apologists' talking point about the impeachment process making Trump stronger.

                              69% of American want to see witnesses and documents
                              51% of Americans want him removed from office.

                              Please send your Trumpy Bears to Mike Pence, William Barr, Lindsay Graham, Rudy Colludy, Devin Nunes, and Mitch McConnell. They will need some serious comforting very soon.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Your favorite "news" network disagrees with you:
                                https://www.salon.com/2020/01/22/fox...ical-standing/

                                This blows up the Trump apologists' talking point about the impeachment process making Trump stronger.

                                69% of American want to see witnesses and documents
                                51% of Americans want him removed from office.

                                Please send your Trumpy Bears to Mike Pence, William Barr, Lindsay Graham, Rudy Colludy, Devin Nunes, and Mitch McConnell. They will need some serious comforting very soon.
                                Salon.com? 😂😂😂 Shocker, another libtard getting his news from a progressive/liberal opinion website. It must be true then. It just might be the same place Schitz is getting all of his conspiracy theories. Well just so you know, The Tasty Taco Tribune says Trump wins in a landslide. What an idiot!

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