College Scholarship offers..

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BTNT is toxic and dangerous. He presents his views as facts instead of opinions. He for instance does not believe anyone should play D3 and indeed he sees no reason for D3 institutions to exist at all. Plus, in contrast to when he used to just say everyone sucks, he now is trying to convince everyone that they can get a full ride to Stanford.

You're proving my point. You need to tell us that because we're too stupid to figure out posts by ourselves. Maybe you're not arrogant, but just have a "savior" complex, and are warning us to stay away form certain posts. That's wonderful then. I wouldn't have been able to figure out that getting a full ride to Stanford for everyone was not possible without your help.

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more like
4 full rides
3 tuition (75%)
14 50%
3 25%
4 preferred walk on
you also are forgetting merit and financial aide

Any idea how scholarships work with grad students? Exp. 5th year redshirt player using their last year of eligibility as a 1st year grad student or a player that graduates in 3 years and want to play their 4th year at the same school as a first year grad student?

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Any idea how scholarships work with grad students? Exp. 5th year redshirt player using their last year of eligibility as a 1st year grad student or a player that graduates in 3 years and want to play their 4th year at the same school as a first year grad student?

Depends on how much the coach wants the player. If they're already on the team they're a known entity. Might be harder to get much coming in from the outside with only one year left.

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Probably would continue with athletic money but not merit aid.

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Tufts is D3. No scholarships for any sport. Different campuses, environments, size, locations, competitive quality. What's the point of comparing the numbers from two different schools?

And does anyone think revenues and expenses just conveniently net out to zero?

It’s because they generally are separate business entities that usually are non profits. Sports at the college level are a business, not like the high school athletic departments some seem to think they are.

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It’s because they generally are separate business entities that usually are non profits. Sports at the college level are a business, not like the high school athletic departments some seem to think they are.

Some athletic programs and certainly specific sports run in the red year in and year out from just a pure revenue/expense basis. The big sports bring in enough cash to keep entire athletic departments in the black at certain schools, but not at the small ones that don't get tv revenues or even sell much swag. Schools rationalize sports on things that are harder to quantify - creating school spirit/community, attract students they wan, alumni $. There was a NY Times piece recently about how Northeastern dropped its football program because of cost, poor attendance and performance while a small D3 added football and saw a big positive change in school spirit and community.

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Wasn’t that the article from the “Your Kid’s Not Going to Turn Pro” guy talking about how the D3 was recruiting his bench warming son? It was all about bolstering applications.

Like all business ventures, some fail. It was a business decision. NU just decided they didn’t want to make the sort of investment they were going to have to make in order to be competitive and to put its money elsewhere. Money doesn’t grow on trees and in the business of sports you have to make a serious investment in facilities and people to make money at it. Nick Saban doesn’t come cheap.

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Tufts is D3. No scholarships for any sport. Different campuses, environments, size, locations, competitive quality. What's the point of comparing the numbers from two different schools?

And does anyone think revenues and expenses just conveniently net out to zero?

The point was to show the disparity between the levels. Some here think that a program like Tufts is on an equal footing with a program like HC. Nice little fantasy but there really is no comparison when one program spends almost 10x what the other spends. That just isn’t reality.

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The point was to show the disparity between the levels. Some here think that a program like Tufts is on an equal footing with a program like HC. Nice little fantasy but there really is no comparison when one program spends almost 10x what the other spends. That just isn’t reality.

Total athletic department spending had little to do with strength of individual sports. Plus how many players would like to be on a national title winning team vs cellar dweller HC?

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Total athletic department spending had little to do with strength of individual sports. Plus how many players would like to be on a national title winning team vs cellar dweller HC?

The same kids that would rather play varsity than JV

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Not true. Poor football programs actually drain these funds for other sports.

look no further then UMASS

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The same kids that would rather play varsity than JV

When your kid isn’t good enough to earn a scholarship and get out on the field of course they would choose to go some place where they could play. What other choice do they have. Certainly an example of putting more weight on soccer than academics though.

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The point was to show the disparity between the levels. Some here think that a program like Tufts is on an equal footing with a program like HC. Nice little fantasy but there really is no comparison when one program spends almost 10x what the other spends. That just isn’t reality.

10x? Please account for that. Don't include scholarships ..... Those are funny money and really cost the school 10 chairs in classrooms, 10 beds, 10 meal plans ..... Colleges pretty much have 10 extra (plus) of each of those just laying around doing nothing. Soccer sports resources like trainers exist at both schools as shared resources between teams, they both travel mostly by coach ......

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When your kid isn’t good enough to earn a scholarship and get out on the field of course they would choose to go some place where they could play. What other choice do they have. Certainly an example of putting more weight on soccer than academics though.

Not really, it is possible to go to a similar academic program and play. Soccer can be the tipping point but does not have to mean sacrifice of academics.

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BTNT working hard again this morning. Same old, same old. Admonishing anyone who would value soccer in the decision making process unless you're "getting paid."

And no one ever said D3s spend anywhere close to the same as D1s, even lower level D1s. That said, Tufts would likely be 5-0-0 over the past five years if HC had been on the schedule (on the men's side).