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Good modern soccer is when your sons team is unpredictable.

Too much smashing the ball all over the place is predictable and easy to defend as they get older.

Too much possession, especially with no purpose, is predictable and easy to defend.

“Good Modern Soccer” meshes the two and the players “know” when to implement both.

The game is really simple. I’ve watched most teams at this age group and can say that I’ve only seen one team that truly attempts it. Most of the teams in the DA and OYSA are so he!! bent on game day that they lose their focus on the cognitive side of the game where decision making is king. You can hear it on the sidelines from the coaches. Coaches that “guide” their players in the flow and not direct their players in the flow are the coaches that you want coaching your kids. Coaches should be asking “why”, “where”, “what can you do” and “how” during the flow. Coaches need to put away their Xbox controllers and let the players think for themselves.
The coaches that focus on changing formations constantly and move players around to make the team more successful are the ones that are failing the game. Even at U14 it’s still about the individual more than the team. If your club does not have an Individual Performance Plan for your child than you need to look elsewhere or demand one.
This is all well and good, but then parent's come on here and start talking bout wins, and goal differentials, and standings. It can't be all about development and all about winning. Youth soccer is a business, and in business the customer is always right. Unfortunately in this business the kids aren't seen as the customers, the parents who are paying are and they demand wins (for the most part, some parent's understand development)

IMO no scores should be recorded for any age group under U16. If we want to develop great players we have to stop trying to win at all costs which tends to develop the older, bigger, and in some cases richer, kids.
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This is all well and good, but then parent's come on here and start talking bout wins, and goal differentials, and standings. It can't be all about development and all about winning. Youth soccer is a business, and in business the customer is always right. Unfortunately in this business the kids aren't seen as the customers, the parents who are paying are and they demand wins (for the most part, some parent's understand development)

IMO no scores should be recorded for any age group under U16. If we want to develop great players we have to stop trying to win at all costs which tends to develop the older, bigger, and in some cases richer, kids.
Winning is good if a by-product if development.

We don’t develop players in Oregon. We post on social media about winning. We talk about development.

No Club has a set development plan that they follow. Ask to see your clubs plan. Then see if your kids coach is doing anything from the plan.

How do we want to measure development?

Players on national teams? Players on college teams? We boast about that every February, but nobody tracks how many kids quit or transfer. If clubs are judged in college recruits do they send the wrong kid to the wrong school?

Maybe we talk about how many pros we produce. Start counting.

Or maybe we judge clubs in how many players don’t quit. Changing the Game states we lose 70% of our players.

Why do so many kids quit? How many clubs cut kids that are 9, 10 and 11? Because some adult with an over inflated ego says they know what talent is? Tell that to griezman, bale, Brady. And those were pro clubs and pro evaluators, some times dealing with mature men.

So how does your club identify talent? All the big kids in the first team and small kids on the second team? Putting players in difficult situations so they grow, or playing the most effective player all the time. “He’s not ready!” For what? Bruising a coach’s ego? Hurting a chance to win a game?

Soccer exists for one reason in Oregon. So overhyped adults can make money. No where else can a person with no education and very little experience get a position of such great influence. Sadly, so few coach ‘s truly care. So few clubs have a plan. They just take as many registrations as possible and buy a new German sedan. “We are about the children! We are about development.”

Then they up fees. Run private training. If the Plan was worth anything, your kid wouldn’t need extra training. If the plan was worth anything, the kids wouldn’t quit.
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Winning is good if a by-product if development.

We don’t develop players in Oregon. We post on social media about winning. We talk about development.

No Club has a set development plan that they follow. Ask to see your clubs plan. Then see if your kids coach is doing anything from the plan.

How do we want to measure development?

Players on national teams? Players on college teams? We boast about that every February, but nobody tracks how many kids quit or transfer. If clubs are judged in college recruits do they send the wrong kid to the wrong school?

Maybe we talk about how many pros we produce. Start counting.

Or maybe we judge clubs in how many players don’t quit. Changing the Game states we lose 70% of our players.

Why do so many kids quit? How many clubs cut kids that are 9, 10 and 11? Because some adult with an over inflated ego says they know what talent is? Tell that to griezman, bale, Brady. And those were pro clubs and pro evaluators, some times dealing with mature men.

So how does your club identify talent? All the big kids in the first team and small kids on the second team? Putting players in difficult situations so they grow, or playing the most effective player all the time. “He’s not ready!” For what? Bruising a coach’s ego? Hurting a chance to win a game?

Soccer exists for one reason in Oregon. So overhyped adults can make money. No where else can a person with no education and very little experience get a position of such great influence. Sadly, so few coach ‘s truly care. So few clubs have a plan. They just take as many registrations as possible and buy a new German sedan. “We are about the children! We are about development.”

Then they up fees. Run private training. If the Plan was worth anything, your kid wouldn’t need extra training. If the plan was worth anything, the kids wouldn’t quit.

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Winning is good if a by-product if development.

We don’t develop players in Oregon. We post on social media about winning. We talk about development.

No Club has a set development plan that they follow. Ask to see your clubs plan. Then see if your kids coach is doing anything from the plan.

How do we want to measure development?

Players on national teams? Players on college teams? We boast about that every February, but nobody tracks how many kids quit or transfer. If clubs are judged in college recruits do they send the wrong kid to the wrong school?

Maybe we talk about how many pros we produce. Start counting.

Or maybe we judge clubs in how many players don’t quit. Changing the Game states we lose 70% of our players.

Why do so many kids quit? How many clubs cut kids that are 9, 10 and 11? Because some adult with an over inflated ego says they know what talent is? Tell that to griezman, bale, Brady. And those were pro clubs and pro evaluators, some times dealing with mature men.

So how does your club identify talent? All the big kids in the first team and small kids on the second team? Putting players in difficult situations so they grow, or playing the most effective player all the time. “He’s not ready!” For what? Bruising a coach’s ego? Hurting a chance to win a game?

Soccer exists for one reason in Oregon. So overhyped adults can make money. No where else can a person with no education and very little experience get a position of such great influence. Sadly, so few coach ‘s truly care. So few clubs have a plan. They just take as many registrations as possible and buy a new German sedan. “We are about the children! We are about development.”

Then they up fees. Run private training. If the Plan was worth anything, your kid wouldn’t need extra training. If the plan was worth anything, the kids wouldn’t quit.
Sad but true. I have a kid who is small and was cut from a club he was with since he was 8 because of it ("he's not going to be able to keep up with the pace"). He's at a different club, playing in a lower division, but actually getting proper training, not being ignored while the bigger kids get the head coaches attention for being older and bigger. I can't put too much blame on the coaches though, every parent meeting all that was talked about was how to improve the wins and standings. What's a DoC to do when the customer asks for wins?
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Sad but true. I have a kid who is small and was cut from a club he was with since he was 8 because of it ("he's not going to be able to keep up with the pace"). He's at a different club, playing in a lower division, but actually getting proper training, not being ignored while the bigger kids get the head coaches attention for being older and bigger. I can't put too much blame on the coaches though, every parent meeting all that was talked about was how to improve the wins and standings. What's a DoC to do when the customer asks for wins?
Educate the Customer.

Think of customers as members, instead of customers.

It a club, not Burger King.
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Sad but true. I have a kid who is small and was cut from a club he was with since he was 8 because of it ("he's not going to be able to keep up with the pace"). He's at a different club, playing in a lower division, but actually getting proper training, not being ignored while the bigger kids get the head coaches attention for being older and bigger. I can't put too much blame on the coaches though, every parent meeting all that was talked about was how to improve the wins and standings. What's a DoC to do when the customer asks for wins?
Tell the parent "if you don't like how this club is run, there are plenty of other clubs to choose from".
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The parents don’t run our club. We are not about the wind at this age. That expectation is set forever. Parents are welcome to leave.
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Tell the parent "if you don't like how this club is run, there are plenty of other clubs to choose from".
Parent tells the employee "there's plenty of other places to work if you don't want to do what your families want"
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Parent tells the employee "there's plenty of other places to work if you don't want to do what your families want"
The question concerned the DoC, not a staff-level coach. Presumably, a DoC will be relatively immune from a parent's threats. (In some clubs, wealthy or well-connected families may have an "in" with the board of directors and may be able to cause problems; in well-run clubs the soccer staff is insulated from this).

At a well-run club, the parents are told, in no uncertain terms, that soccer decisions are up to the coach.

And sometimes parents and families leave. Occasionally you see a major exodus of an entire team.
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The question concerned the DoC, not a staff-level coach. Presumably, a DoC will be relatively immune from a parent's threats. (In some clubs, wealthy or well-connected families may have an "in" with the board of directors and may be able to cause problems; in well-run clubs the soccer staff is insulated from this).

At a well-run club, the parents are told, in no uncertain terms, that soccer decisions are up to the coach.

And sometimes parents and families leave. Occasionally you see a major exodus of an entire team.
The DoC gets a pay check, it's paid for in dues. Parents pay the dues, some of them based on how much a club wins
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