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    MLS Clubs Dropping DA?

    Just saw an article stating that MLS clubs were considering dropping out of the Development Academy system. Wow!

    #2
    From another thread....

    MLS academy teams looking to separate from DA - https://www.socceramerica.com/

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Just saw an article stating that MLS clubs were considering dropping out of the Development Academy system. Wow!
      The talent gap between MLS DA clubs and non-MLS clubs is becoming too great and some games are not meaningful.

      Where does this leave OW and BS if it happens?

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The talent gap between MLS DA clubs and non-MLS clubs is becoming too great and some games are not meaningful.

        Where does this leave OW and BS if it happens?
        DA without MLS means the END of the DA.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The talent gap between MLS DA clubs and non-MLS clubs is becoming too great and some games are not meaningful.

          Where does this leave OW and BS if it happens?
          OW should hook up with Hartford Athletic (USL), as it is likely that MLS and USL with set up a Pro Only Academy league in the future. Otherwise OW could end up looking for a new league to play in.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            DA without MLS means the END of the DA.
            Look at the scores and the standings of the DA. It doesn't seem that the gap between the MLS and non-MLS clubs is that great.

            MLS DA clubs don't really have other options. Some MLS programs don't support their DA teams very well either.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Look at the scores and the standings of the DA. It doesn't seem that the gap between the MLS and non-MLS clubs is that great.

              MLS DA clubs don't really have other options. Some MLS programs don't support their DA teams very well either.
              Scores don't tell the whole story. MLS clubs (generally) do care more about development. They're better about pushing up younger players to challenge them. Their goal is to develop pro talent, not put players in college. Also, they're not charging fees to cover their costs and as such feel they should have more say in how they train players and who they play, or even to drop out altogether because they don't want to be in youth development. There are some non MLS clubs that can hang with the pro clubs and not all pro club teams are great. But there are plenty of non MLS clubs that aren't worth the cost of gas to drive to.

              If MLS clubs dropped out it would kill DA - it becomes just another league. One of the biggest draws is that even if you're not on a MLS team you get to play MLS teams. It gave the league credibility and supposed professionalism. Then again, there's rumors DA changes to a two tier system with promotion and relegations, so who the phuck knows. USSF has a full plate trying to save the dumpster fire that is GDA.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                OW should hook up with Hartford Athletic (USL), as it is likely that MLS and USL with set up a Pro Only Academy league in the future. Otherwise OW could end up looking for a new league to play in.
                A brand new club bleeding money doesn't want to deal with youth development. I think in the thread about the club there was discussion that they want no part of it for now.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  A brand new club bleeding money doesn't want to deal with youth development. I think in the thread about the club there was discussion that they want no part of it for now.
                  This^^^. Most MLS clubs can't afford free academies, NO semi pro teams can. Does everyone fart cotton candy in your world? Seriously people .... Stop throwing out expensive fantasies to grow soccer in America unless you are Mrs. Bezos and are willing to pay for it.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Scores don't tell the whole story. MLS clubs (generally) do care more about development. They're better about pushing up younger players to challenge them. Their goal is to develop pro talent, not put players in college. Also, they're not charging fees to cover their costs and as such feel they should have more say in how they train players and who they play, or even to drop out altogether because they don't want to be in youth development. There are some non MLS clubs that can hang with the pro clubs and not all pro club teams are great. But there are plenty of non MLS clubs that aren't worth the cost of gas to drive to.

                    If MLS clubs dropped out it would kill DA - it becomes just another league. One of the biggest draws is that even if you're not on a MLS team you get to play MLS teams. It gave the league credibility and supposed professionalism. Then again, there's rumors DA changes to a two tier system with promotion and relegations, so who the phuck knows. USSF has a full plate trying to save the dumpster fire that is GDA.
                    All but the crying is already done.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This^^^. Most MLS clubs can't afford free academies, NO semi pro teams can. Does everyone fart cotton candy in your world? Seriously people .... Stop throwing out expensive fantasies to grow soccer in America unless you are Mrs. Bezos and are willing to pay for it.
                      How much does the Academy cost the red bulls? They are raking money in charging for camps and clinics and rds etc. etc. Does the academy cost them any more then what they extract from the parents with all of that?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        How much does the Academy cost the red bulls? They are raking money in charging for camps and clinics and rds etc. etc. Does the academy cost them any more then what they extract from the parents with all of that?
                        Ridiculous for you to say that any club can pay for academy by working harder to cover those costs and by holding more bake sales, car washes, and clinics. If it costs them half a million dollars then that is money they lose by financing it. In our world they cannot make any money back by being the top club or having top teams or being the best developer of talent so it is nothing but money lost. Any world class talent they train is leaving for Europe so they can't even recoup money by adding talent to their top team because if that happens the talent is not truly world class.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          This^^^. Most MLS clubs can't afford free academies, NO semi pro teams can. Does everyone fart cotton candy in your world? Seriously people .... Stop throwing out expensive fantasies to grow soccer in America unless you are Mrs. Bezos and are willing to pay for it.
                          You lack the vision to see the future. MLS 20 years ago was a much different animal, with limited resources and a few owners owning all of the teams. People like you would have said at that time that MLS would never have its own stadiums, would never have a TV contract and would never maintain an Academy system that was producing players that leagues in Europe would poach.

                          In the future we will have a multi-level pro pyramid and all of these teams will have their own Academies. Solidarity and training compensation will be in effect. We may even have promotion and relegation.....step aside, sit back and watch (just like to did 20 years ago).

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            How much does the Academy cost the red bulls? They are raking money in charging for camps and clinics and rds etc. etc. Does the academy cost them any more then what they extract from the parents with all of that?
                            Red Bulls is in one of the better positions to "possibly" cover their costs with RDS and camps. But it's only because of the massive network they have built to do so and the vast metro area they can pull kids in from. A struggling club like Columbus? Not so much.


                            The goals of an MLS club in youth development (if they even want to be in it) are vastly different than the vast majority of kids they train (college). Each year they have to train 100+ kids at their expense to "maybe" find one homegrown every other year. They can't even really profit off the homegrowns either. Some MLS clubs want to stay in youth development but do it their won way; others don't want anything to do with it at all.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Ridiculous for you to say that any club can pay for academy by working harder to cover those costs and by holding more bake sales, car washes, and clinics. If it costs them half a million dollars then that is money they lose by financing it. In our world they cannot make any money back by being the top club or having top teams or being the best developer of talent so it is nothing but money lost. Any world class talent they train is leaving for Europe so they can't even recoup money by adding talent to their top team because if that happens the talent is not truly world class.
                              What does the Redbulls youth operation have to do with bake sales? I think they offer a good product. But they do get lots of business from young kids that are hoping to be selected for the academy one day. They can do what they want but they are hardly helpless shlubs in this.

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