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    And that will be the end of playing the ball out of the back..
    stupid idea from beginning
    Re: Norwich 3rd goal

    #2
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    And that will be the end of playing the ball out of the back..
    stupid idea from beginning
    Re: Norwich 3rd goal
    Even the best struggle to play under pressure, not sure who thinks it’s a good idea for young players
    It has been Pep at the forefront of this style
    It will be interesting to see if he changes tactics...big implications for youth soccer as many worship at Pep’s altar

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      And that will be the end of playing the ball out of the back..
      stupid idea from beginning
      Re: Norwich 3rd goal
      I’m glad you’re not coaching my kid.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I’m glad you’re not coaching my kid.
        And a goal to Watford due to Arsenal trying to play out of the back.
        Nbcsports commentators are all over this.

        Stop having the u10s line up and pretend

        Nobody can play this way without mistakes
        Stupidest tactical decision ever

        And not nearly as glad as I am not to be coaching them

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          And a goal to Watford due to Arsenal trying to play out of the back.
          Nbcsports commentators are all over this.

          Stop having the u10s line up and pretend

          Nobody can play this way without mistakes
          Stupidest tactical decision ever

          And not nearly as glad as I am not to be coaching them
          Do you lose your voice yelling, “BOOT IT!!” on the sidelines??? Lol

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            And a goal to Watford due to Arsenal trying to play out of the back.
            Nbcsports commentators are all over this.

            Stop having the u10s line up and pretend

            Nobody can play this way without mistakes
            Stupidest tactical decision ever

            And not nearly as glad as I am not to be coaching them
            And an alternative to playing out of the back other than booting it every possession and getting it back 1/3 of the time?

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              And an alternative to playing out of the back other than booting it every possession and getting it back 1/3 of the time?
              The fat lady is singing on this one folks
              2 years from now it’ll only be bad dream...
              How will all the brilliant coaches break down the habit...

              Clear the lines, baby!!

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                #8
                Unreal. So, teams play out of the back thousands of times and turn it over for a goal about .0000001% of the time, so you want them to abandon it?

                That's like saying Brady should just hand the ball off all game long so as to never throw an INT....

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                  #9
                  Neither tactic is 100% right all the time. How about if we teach keepers to recognize when the other team has high pressure and play it over them? Or maybe if the other team is sitting back with one forward pressing, you try to build to take advantage of the numbers up situation? That would make more sense than artificially creating a non-pressure situation with build out lines.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Neither tactic is 100% right all the time. How about if we teach keepers to recognize when the other team has high pressure and play it over them? Or maybe if the other team is sitting back with one forward pressing, you try to build to take advantage of the numbers up situation? That would make more sense than artificially creating a non-pressure situation with build out lines.
                    yes, 1000x this. and defenders need to realize if the GK doesn't recognize pressure, *they* need to hurry the clear. one would have thought the rule change would have made this easier, but oddly, it seems worse -- my guess is that it's more obvious now when a GK will play out of the back, whereas when the Ds played outside the 18 all the time it was a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Neither tactic is 100% right all the time. How about if we teach keepers to recognize when the other team has high pressure and play it over them? Or maybe if the other team is sitting back with one forward pressing, you try to build to take advantage of the numbers up situation? That would make more sense than artificially creating a non-pressure situation with build out lines.
                      Like all rule changes in all sports, over time teams adjust. But, you have to learn how to do something before you can learn how to adjust away from it. Better to have the ability to play short if there is no pressure, than to not know how. I know our club always advocated playing from the back, but as teams press more, they've been up front that we will start to play more intermediate/long range balls if that's where the space is. If they don't press so high, then we'll go short again.

                      One would think that's common sense, but apparently not.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Like all rule changes in all sports, over time teams adjust. But, you have to learn how to do something before you can learn how to adjust away from it. Better to have the ability to play short if there is no pressure, than to not know how. I know our club always advocated playing from the back, but as teams press more, they've been up front that we will start to play more intermediate/long range balls if that's where the space is. If they don't press so high, then we'll go short again.

                        One would think that's common sense, but apparently not.
                        Its not, because Pep and his acolytes have built entire squads to showcase the style..its not WORKING.

                        Playing short is a tactic all over the pitch, it does not need to be taught expressly for defenders.
                        Are players so stupid or blind they can’t sense or see pressure, regardless of being a keeper, defender or striker.
                        Whatever happened to “man on”?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Unreal. So, teams play out of the back thousands of times and turn it over for a goal about .0000001% of the time, so you want them to abandon it?

                          That's like saying Brady should just hand the ball off all game long so as to never throw an INT....
                          Yes, because in a game that is decided more times than not by a single mistake that leads to a goal, why risk it?

                          And please spare us the “boot it” comments...it’s a bit more complicated than that

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Yes, because in a game that is decided more times than not by a single mistake that leads to a goal, why risk it?

                            And please spare us the “boot it” comments...it’s a bit more complicated than that
                            Again, you can do something correct a thousand times and win dozens and dozens of games as a result. You then turn to the one it doesn't and think one should change an entire mindset?

                            LOL

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Again, you can do something correct a thousand times and win dozens and dozens of games as a result. You then turn to the one it doesn't and think one should change an entire mindset?

                              LOL
                              Sorry, mate, but the game is won by putting the ball in the back of their net.
                              Not by giving them an opportunity to knock it into yours.

                              2 fast strikers vs uncomfortable defenders and keeper...no contest
                              And that is the scenario for 99.9% of the games played

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