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    #31
    Soon playing out the back will become taking it from the back, if it isn’t already.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Soon playing out the back will become taking it from the back, if it isn’t already.
      Been happening for years with Greek squads...

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        #33
        Playing out of the back has always been part of soccer. Does having a player that can kick the ball 70 yards help, yes to a certain point. If you know the team is going to kick the ball 70 yards every time you but your best ball winner at that distance and then counter when all their players are pushed forward. Playing out of the back sets up playing long and allows you to pass through 1, 2 or even sometimes 3 lines of defense. For those that don't understand what I am saying it is like in football where the run sets up the pass and the short passes set up the bomb. If you just throw the bomb down the field is it effective, no. Every team would be throwing the ball 50 plus yards per play. The same is in soccer you have to mix it up. It is the same as football at the younger ages with playing short passes or running the ball because players are not skilled enough to throw and catch long passes.

        The new rule will make building out of the back easier for the younger players because the ball does not need to travel outside the 18 but players cannot come in until played. Our coach explained it to the players that when you build out of the back you are always in 3v1 or 4v2 situation. Now I understand why I see the players playing this a lot more than with my other daughter.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Playing out of the back has always been part of soccer. Does having a player that can kick the ball 70 yards help, yes to a certain point. If you know the team is going to kick the ball 70 yards every time you but your best ball winner at that distance and then counter when all their players are pushed forward. Playing out of the back sets up playing long and allows you to pass through 1, 2 or even sometimes 3 lines of defense. For those that don't understand what I am saying it is like in football where the run sets up the pass and the short passes set up the bomb. If you just throw the bomb down the field is it effective, no. Every team would be throwing the ball 50 plus yards per play. The same is in soccer you have to mix it up. It is the same as football at the younger ages with playing short passes or running the ball because players are not skilled enough to throw and catch long passes.

          The new rule will make building out of the back easier for the younger players because the ball does not need to travel outside the 18 but players cannot come in until played. Our coach explained it to the players that when you build out of the back you are always in 3v1 or 4v2 situation. Now I understand why I see the players playing this a lot more than with my other daughter.
          Good points.
          It is a very choreographed style of play, as it needs to be.
          Reliant upon players finding space to receive the ball from the defenders-that is also it’s biggest weakness.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Good points.
            It is a very choreographed style of play, as it needs to be.
            Reliant upon players finding space to receive the ball from the defenders-that is also it’s biggest weakness.
            It is reliant on the team being able to recognize a high press, when there is no numerical advantage to playing out the back and the risk to losing the ball in your defensive third in poor defensive shape is high. That's when you play it long.

            It requires technical players be able to pass accurately and to feet with a maximum of two touches, have field awareness, i.e. checking your shoulder, and those off the ball able to move to space and find supporting angles when the press occurs. Bottom line, if you don't have a keeper who can play just as comfortably with their feet and defenders and a holding mid who can play 2-touch soccer, you aren't building out the back successfully. The hardest part is actually teaching midfielders how to move and create space to anticipate the 2nd or 3rd pass in the chain... without which, you just end up banging it forward anyway, or losing the ball just outside your 18.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              It is reliant on the team being able to recognize a high press, when there is no numerical advantage to playing out the back and the risk to losing the ball in your defensive third in poor defensive shape is high. That's when you play it long.

              It requires technical players be able to pass accurately and to feet with a maximum of two touches, have field awareness, i.e. checking your shoulder, and those off the ball able to move to space and find supporting angles when the press occurs. Bottom line, if you don't have a keeper who can play just as comfortably with their feet and defenders and a holding mid who can play 2-touch soccer, you aren't building out the back successfully. The hardest part is actually teaching midfielders how to move and create space to anticipate the 2nd or 3rd pass in the chain... without which, you just end up banging it forward anyway, or losing the ball just outside your 18.
              A la Man City, hence the title

              Remember, this is t/s, keeping it simple works best

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                #37
                About 1% of youth soccer teams in MA actually try and play out the back. The style of play between the top ECNL/DA teams and the bottom NEP/NSL teams is virtually identical, the quality of player is the only difference.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  It is reliant on the team being able to recognize a high press, when there is no numerical advantage to playing out the back and the risk to losing the ball in your defensive third in poor defensive shape is high. That's when you play it long.

                  It requires technical players be able to pass accurately and to feet with a maximum of two touches, have field awareness, i.e. checking your shoulder, and those off the ball able to move to space and find supporting angles when the press occurs. Bottom line, if you don't have a keeper who can play just as comfortably with their feet and defenders and a holding mid who can play 2-touch soccer, you aren't building out the back successfully. The hardest part is actually teaching midfielders how to move and create space to anticipate the 2nd or 3rd pass in the chain... without which, you just end up banging it forward anyway, or losing the ball just outside your 18.

                  good coaches will be able to teach their players specific triggers from the opposing press to make the movements to allow the midfielders to get on the ball.

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                    #39
                    https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-...r-league-clubs

                    A couple of snippets:

                    "The main -- and most important -- is to produce a better quality of service into front players. For years, particularly in England, forwards fought to gain possession of passes hit toward them from some 60 yards away. It is much easier for front players to receive passes and make better runs when balls are played into them from shorter distances."

                    "- When midfield players vacate the central area, passing avenues into front players are created.
                    - Emptying the same area allows full-backs to receive the ball unchallenged when they make a run into central midfield.
                    - By pushing full-backs infield at the right time, central defenders have clear passing routes into attacking wide players.
                    - Defenders have the option, when they are closed down in possession, to play beyond that pressure to a front three that know where the ball is going to be played."

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      A la Man City, hence the title

                      Remember, this is t/s, keeping it simple works best
                      Noticed quite the reduction of out of the back play this weekend.
                      Did not know Ederson could punt...

                      The end is near

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                        #41
                        Youth soccer teams only play out of the back endlessly so if they lose they can say “well we were playing out of the back, it’s a process it’s development” and keep all the income flowing.

                        Pep has hundreds of millions to spend on the few on the handful of players on the planet that can execute what he wants.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Youth soccer teams only play out of the back endlessly so if they lose they can say “well we were playing out of the back, it’s a process it’s development” and keep all the income flowing.

                          Pep has hundreds of millions to spend on the few on the handful of players on the planet that can execute what he wants.
                          Yes I typed that out way too quickly

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Youth soccer teams only play out of the back endlessly so if they lose they can say “well we were playing out of the back, it’s a process it’s development” and keep all the income flowing.

                            Pep has hundreds of millions to spend on the few on the handful of players on the planet that can execute what he wants.
                            And they still screw it up

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              And they still screw it up
                              Stupidest tactic I’ve ever seen.
                              And all the idiots over here think it should be part of the “beautiful game” (which they never watch, btw) until they’re picking the ball out of the back of the net

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