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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    And everyone who has enough money to join a country club is an elite golfer.
    Don’t forget gymnastics, swimming, skiing, travel baseball and softball, volleyball, and nearly all non-ghetto sports. They all travel and cost a lot of money. In fact, many of those sports cost as much and MORE than playing in the ECNL. This is American youth sports and is not just a soccer problem.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      The people I know who have daughters that play on ECNL teams are wealthy and want the bragging rights. Their daughters are mostly above average players, but not the best players.

      Kind of like putting a water feature at the entrance to your 1/4 mile driveway. You want people to know that you make serious money and are elite status. You earned the right. You deserve this. You belong to the top tier country club and wouldn't be caught dead teeing off at a public course.
      So adorable that you would post this. If you have the means you are by all rights in the good if you want a fountain at the start of your driveway. It’s basic design. You people need a hobby.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Don’t forget gymnastics, swimming, skiing, travel baseball and softball, volleyball, and nearly all non-ghetto sports. They all travel and cost a lot of money. In fact, many of those sports cost as much and MORE than playing in the ECNL. This is American youth sports and is not just a soccer problem.
        I have a son in hockey, a daughter in Competition dance and a my third is in ECNL. ECNL is the cheapest of the three. About $700-800 cheaper than dance and thousands cheaper than hockey. I know expensive as hell, but we only go through it once and will miss it.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The people I know who have daughters that play on ECNL teams are wealthy and want the bragging rights. Their daughters are mostly above average players, but not the best players.

          Kind of like putting a water feature at the entrance to your 1/4 mile driveway. You want people to know that you make serious money and are elite status. You earned the right. You deserve this. You belong to the top tier country club and wouldn't be caught dead teeing off at a public course.
          Champaign wishes and caviar dreams.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            GDA was always a joke. GDA move away from ECNL was a money grab and our youth national team system is a cycle of friends helping friends.

            Be honest with this... Our youth soccer system is a trilogy of not very talented people running a program for entitled kids who's parents fund the madness..... Their are no winners..
            True statement right here. Just look at all the Seattle Reign Academy national team call ups from losing teams. No secret who their ex director is. Friends helping friends. Sad.

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              #36
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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              True statement right here. Just look at all the Seattle Reign Academy national team call ups from losing teams. No secret who their ex director is. Friends helping friends. Sad.
              So true. Reign U17s have at least 5 players who have received more than 1 call up including a GK and two defenders. They recently lost to Beach 1-6. They lost to San Jose 0-5 as well -- In that game, San Jose played up most of their 04 team. They have given up about 2 goals per game with 3 so-called national team defenders. Everyone knows it's a joke and just about Tracey Kevins doing favors for the Reign since she used to work there and they desperately need help and that's exactly the problem with US Soccer. Reign teams have never competed at a high level nationally yet they get a bunch of very suspect call ups.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                So true. Reign U17s have at least 5 players who have received more than 1 call up including a GK and two defenders. They recently lost to Beach 1-6. They lost to San Jose 0-5 as well -- In that game, San Jose played up most of their 04 team. They have given up about 2 goals per game with 3 so-called national team defenders. Everyone knows it's a joke and just about Tracey Kevins doing favors for the Reign since she used to work there and they desperately need help and that's exactly the problem with US Soccer. Reign teams have never competed at a high level nationally yet they get a bunch of very suspect call ups.
                Meanwhile, Katie Duong goes from regular national team callups (before GDA started up) to no national team callups (when she chose ECNL over GDA) to starting on the U19 national team (once she went to college).

                Tells me all I need to know about the integrity of the national team selection process in the GDA era.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Meanwhile, Katie Duong goes from regular national team callups (before GDA started up) to no national team callups (when she chose ECNL over GDA) to starting on the U19 national team (once she went to college).

                  Tells me all I need to know about the integrity of the national team selection process in the GDA era.
                  It’s called D E S P E R A T I O N.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Meanwhile, Katie Duong goes from regular national team callups (before GDA started up) to no national team callups (when she chose ECNL over GDA) to starting on the U19 national team (once she went to college).

                    Tells me all I need to know about the integrity of the national team selection process in the GDA era.

                    Yes the best play DA.

                    This one left Oregon crap club and hs dumpster fire level to play DA in Wa.

                    Paid off for her d1 school an uswnt

                    Rare for Oregon talent..well done DA.

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                      #40
                      Soccer Wire reporting DA is announcing their folding as early as tomorrow. By all means keep defending as the Titanic sinks.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Soccer Wire reporting DA is announcing their folding as early as tomorrow. By all means keep defending as the Titanic sinks.
                        Uh, Soccer Wire is reporting no such thing. The story you are referring to is here:

                        https://www.soccerwire.com/resources...pment-academy/

                        DA is getting around to--no surprise--cancelling the rest of the 2019-20 season (like everything else in soccer, they've been shut down for a while). But the rumor that DA was shutting down for good was floated yesterday; today is tomorrow and no such announcement has been made.

                        Could it happen? We've gone from Sunil Gulati (who was a big DA proponent) to Carlos Cordiero (who didn't give a sh!t about anything, honestly, and basically wasted two years in charge), to Cindy Parlow Cone, who is new on the job and hasn't tipped her hand what she thinks.

                        It could happen--MLS seems to be wanting to cut loose from the boys DA, and for GDA to make sense it needs to be fully subsidized. If it's just as expensive as ECNL, then it doesn't solve the main problem with ECNL (many girls can't afford it) and introduces others. But the original rumor of an imminent shutdown now seems to be dialed back.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Uh, Soccer Wire is reporting no such thing. The story you are referring to is here:

                          https://www.soccerwire.com/resources...pment-academy/

                          DA is getting around to--no surprise--cancelling the rest of the 2019-20 season (like everything else in soccer, they've been shut down for a while). But the rumor that DA was shutting down for good was floated yesterday; today is tomorrow and no such announcement has been made.

                          Could it happen? We've gone from Sunil Gulati (who was a big DA proponent) to Carlos Cordiero (who didn't give a sh!t about anything, honestly, and basically wasted two years in charge), to Cindy Parlow Cone, who is new on the job and hasn't tipped her hand what she thinks.

                          It could happen--MLS seems to be wanting to cut loose from the boys DA, and for GDA to make sense it needs to be fully subsidized. If it's just as expensive as ECNL, then it doesn't solve the main problem with ECNL (many girls can't afford it) and introduces others. But the original rumor of an imminent shutdown now seems to be dialed back.
                          Keep up the good work. Those deck chairs on the Titanic won’t rearrange themselves.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Uh, Soccer Wire is reporting no such thing. The story you are referring to is here:

                            https://www.soccerwire.com/resources...pment-academy/

                            DA is getting around to--no surprise--cancelling the rest of the 2019-20 season (like everything else in soccer, they've been shut down for a while). But the rumor that DA was shutting down for good was floated yesterday; today is tomorrow and no such announcement has been made.

                            Could it happen? We've gone from Sunil Gulati (who was a big DA proponent) to Carlos Cordiero (who didn't give a sh!t about anything, honestly, and basically wasted two years in charge), to Cindy Parlow Cone, who is new on the job and hasn't tipped her hand what she thinks.

                            It could happen--MLS seems to be wanting to cut loose from the boys DA, and for GDA to make sense it needs to be fully subsidized. If it's just as expensive as ECNL, then it doesn't solve the main problem with ECNL (many girls can't afford it) and introduces others. But the original rumor of an imminent shutdown now seems to be dialed back.
                            It's Happening!

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Keep up the good work. Those deck chairs on the Titanic won’t rearrange themselves.
                              Not part of DA, sorry.

                              On the boys' side, I think the DA has largely been successful--but now, it's time for MLS to take over. In most countries, the domestic pro league(s) are what run the top academies, not the national federation. MLS (much of it anyway) has moved from the North American sports model (where pro teams have little to do with youth sports) to the worldwide soccer model. In such an environment, the DA isn't anywhere near as relevant.

                              The main problem with this is that many markets don't have a MLS or USL team nearby (or have one that has a lousy academy--like here). A more limited DA program focusing on such places would be useful.

                              The girls side is different--girls/women's soccer remains a "non-revenue sport", where there is no lucrative and well-funded professional entity funding development. Title IX is the exception, and thus ECNL has been geared towards college recruitment rather than international soccer. That said--colleges (more so on the boys side, but also on the girls side) have been recruiting more and more abroad; if the NCAA ups the quality of its game this would be beneficial. The other big concern with ECNL is its attempt to dominate the college recruiting pipeline, which is part and parcel of the longstanding US Club/USYS war. Neither side there is entirely clean.

                              The interesting question, remains--what will the new leadership of US Soccer do? Carlos Cordiero is gone, as is Jay Berhalter, and good riddance to both of them. Cone has inherited a mess.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                Not part of DA, sorry.

                                On the boys' side, I think the DA has largely been successful--but now, it's time for MLS to take over. In most countries, the domestic pro league(s) are what run the top academies, not the national federation. MLS (much of it anyway) has moved from the North American sports model (where pro teams have little to do with youth sports) to the worldwide soccer model. In such an environment, the DA isn't anywhere near as relevant.

                                The main problem with this is that many markets don't have a MLS or USL team nearby (or have one that has a lousy academy--like here). A more limited DA program focusing on such places would be useful.

                                The girls side is different--girls/women's soccer remains a "non-revenue sport", where there is no lucrative and well-funded professional entity funding development. Title IX is the exception, and thus ECNL has been geared towards college recruitment rather than international soccer. That said--colleges (more so on the boys side, but also on the girls side) have been recruiting more and more abroad; if the NCAA ups the quality of its game this would be beneficial. The other big concern with ECNL is its attempt to dominate the college recruiting pipeline, which is part and parcel of the longstanding US Club/USYS war. Neither side there is entirely clean.

                                The interesting question, remains--what will the new leadership of US Soccer do? Carlos Cordiero is gone, as is Jay Berhalter, and good riddance to both of them. Cone has inherited a mess.
                                The mess is one of the reasons the article predicts an end to both boys and girls DA. Anticipating an 8 figure payout for the lawsuit by the women’s national team. Both academies bleeding cash and producing poor results (the article’s opinion and not mine).

                                I think this will be officially announced in the next few weeks. Thorns obviously already knew and their attempt to do “pre academy” teams is either a need for money or an attempt to qualify for ecnl or both.

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