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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Most clubs do an inadequate job when it comes to preventing injuries. Almost non existent cool down/stretching. Minimal engagement of trainers.
    I don't necessarily blame the clubs. The club and coach have their part in this, but ultimately it is the parents and players who have to take responsibility. My family pays for strength and conditioning with specialist athletic sports trainers and builds those sessions into our schedule year round. Even our 11yo boy has been doing it for a year.

    We listen to our kids and their bodies and ensure adequate rest and recovery both during the season with at least two days off from soccer and a real off-season with mostly pick-up soccer, individual training and losts of cross training in other things like swimming, biking, trampoline work, etc. Lastly, we ramp up the fitness in August so they are prepared going into the season when training starts.

    Bottom line, the parents and players need to manage their players bodies as no one else will. It doesn't guarantee an injury free season, but it should prevent the preventable injuries, and ACL tears are absolutely preventable.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I don't necessarily blame the clubs. The club and coach have their part in this, but ultimately it is the parents and players who have to take responsibility. My family pays for strength and conditioning with specialist athletic sports trainers and builds those sessions into our schedule year round. Even our 11yo boy has been doing it for a year.

      We listen to our kids and their bodies and ensure adequate rest and recovery both during the season with at least two days off from soccer and a real off-season with mostly pick-up soccer, individual training and losts of cross training in other things like swimming, biking, trampoline work, etc. Lastly, we ramp up the fitness in August so they are prepared going into the season when training starts.

      Bottom line, the parents and players need to manage their players bodies as no one else will. It doesn't guarantee an injury free season, but it should prevent the preventable injuries, and ACL tears are absolutely preventable.
      I will agree with much of what you say, except for the "absolutely preventable" part. The risk of an ACL injury can certainly be reduced by doing the things you note, but in my mind, this stops short of absolute prevention.

      The element of chance plays a significant role when it comes to injury avoidance, and even the best conditioned athlete can suffer an ACL tear, whether it be due to contact from another player, the consequences of undertaking a sequence of movements that are purely of her own making, or simply encountering an unfortunate irregularity in the pitch. No amount of training or preparation can assure safe passage.

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        #33
        I agree. I have had a couple of generations of girl players and I am familiar with training schedules and demands on the players. The ECNL season is grueling but that being said the league does try and manage the demands. ECNL doesn't allow more than one game a day. Also, during national events they schedule a rest day if there are more than three games. Both Breakers and Stars participated in the ECNL last year. Breakers generally trained twice a week and Stars would train either two or three times a week. The training is high level and intense but for the most part both clubs take into account the schedule and try to get players the rest they need. Some have come here and tried to blame the club and the coach for the injuries but I'm not so sure that is fair.

        When girl players are younger training and playing a lot it is ok. All of the touches end up making them better players. The issue is when their bodies change and the training doesn't. A kid that was 11 that played town, indoor leagues, ODP, and club could get away with it. But when the player turns 16 or 17 and Mom and Dad are still scheduling personal training on days off, ODP, and high level club soccer it simply becomes too much sometimes. Families need to realize that a 17 year old girl has physical limitations an 11 year old does not. It seems to be a pattern forming that from ages 15 to 18 girls are suffering a high percentage of ACL injuries at the elite levels.

        The club can't account for the outside of club soccer activities for individual players that may add up to be too much. Parents need to understand at a certain point that more is not an advantage to their daughter but a dangerous decision that can cause serious injury. Managing the amount of time a player trains/plays and what that player is signed up for is important.

        That being said injuries happen and no matter how smart a player's activities are managed sometimes it is bad luck. But we all know parents with best intentions of giving their kids an advantage that simply drove them into the ground and increase the risk of injury. Education about ACL injury prevention, strength training to decrease the chances of injury, and management of soccer training/game time are key to reducing this epidemic.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          at least you have an actual soccer coach. Most schools have teachers that have to look up the positions on the internet.
          what makes him an 'actual soccer coach'?

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            #35
            Especially going up against players that lack technical skills and just go for the body .

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              #36
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              we ramp up the fitness in August so they are prepared going into the season when training starts.
              This is very important. There is no time between tryouts and the HS season to get into shape. Player that are not fit will often be injured early in the season.

              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Bottom line, the parents and players need to manage their players bodies as no one else will. It doesn't guarantee an injury free season, but it should prevent the preventable injuries, and ACL tears are absolutely preventable.
              To a degree. Good training, plyometrics can significantly reduce non-contact ACL injuries.
              However, contact related ACL injuries will happen despite training and conditioning.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                This is very important. There is no time between tryouts and the HS season to get into shape. Player that are not fit will often be injured early in the season.



                To a degree. Good training, plyometrics can significantly reduce non-contact ACL injuries.
                However, contact related ACL injuries will happen despite training and conditioning.
                Non-contact ACL injuries can and will happen also regardless of training level.

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                  #38
                  most ACL are non contact. And they are not just reserved to elite level athletes.
                  Many hope they are fully treatable but often imbalances and weaknesses persist post surgery and affect motor control and expression. Some athletes are just not the same, or not able to ever achieve their full capability after months of rehab and PT.

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                    #39
                    Do most D1 colleges honor verbal commitments of injured high school athletes?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Do most D1 colleges honor verbal commitments of injured high school athletes?
                      Its case by case. I know instances of both

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Do most D1 colleges honor verbal commitments of injured high school athletes?
                        If your a top recruit they will honor it. Other than that it's their get out of scholarship jail free card.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          If your a top recruit they will honor it. Other than that it's their get out of scholarship jail free card.
                          Not true. Top recruit and they feel you will come back ..maybe. other than that..they will say things like..you can walk on blah blah..but they do everything to get out from under it

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                            #43
                            What about the MVC teams? Will Central go to the end again? Can Andover or North Andover give Central a good run? Anyone else a possibility? With Central winning it all last year you'd thing someone might talk about them. No?

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              What about the MVC teams? Will Central go to the end again? Can Andover or North Andover give Central a good run? Anyone else a possibility? With Central winning it all last year you'd thing someone might talk about them. No?
                              looks like youre trying to.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                What about the MVC teams? Will Central go to the end again? Can Andover or North Andover give Central a good run? Anyone else a possibility? With Central winning it all last year you'd thing someone might talk about them. No?
                                Central should repeat. Still have best player in Ma. and word on street is a couple stud freshman coming in.

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