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    U14 ECNL Tryouts

    According to their respective websites both FC Portland and Crossfire/THUSC are holding their U14 ECNL tryouts for next year on May 4 & 5.

    The older age groups (U15, U16, U17 & U18) will tryout in August.

    Is there going to be a big turnout for the U14's from across the city or just a selection of their current players?

    #2
    Might depend on who the coaches are?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      According to their respective websites both FC Portland and Crossfire/THUSC are holding their U14 ECNL tryouts for next year on May 4 & 5.

      The older age groups (U15, U16, U17 & U18) will tryout in August.

      Is there going to be a big turnout for the U14's from across the city or just a selection of their current players?

      That will depend on whether or not your or others DD's want to play ENCL now wouldn't it? One would suspect that some of the better players might show up.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        That will depend on whether or not your or others DD's want to play ENCL now wouldn't it? One would suspect that some of the better players might show up.
        In looking at their U13 Fall OPL records, both FC & Crossfire would have been relegated from the top National Premier League while THUSC was one of the stronger teams.

        FC better hope for a big turnout of players from outside their club or that U14 ECNL team is going to have a long year. If you can't compete with the top teams in Oregon, their ECNL first year experience will be a real struggle.

        The U14 Crossfire/THUSC ECNL team will likely be stronger simply due to the fact that THUSC was clearly the better of these 3 programs. The question here is will those kids who don't make it stick around to play on their regular club teams?

        It appears from their websites that only the ECNL teams will be combined of Crossfire/THUSC players. But, those kids who don't make ECNL will go back to their respective club teams, which will be significantly weakened by the loss of the ECNL girls. Is this correct?

        If this is the case, will those kids who are leftover from Crossfire & THUSC then going to stick around for teams that are nowhere near as strong as before?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          In looking at their U13 Fall OPL records, both FC & Crossfire would have been relegated from the top National Premier League while THUSC was one of the stronger teams.

          FC better hope for a big turnout of players from outside their club or that U14 ECNL team is going to have a long year. If you can't compete with the top teams in Oregon, their ECNL first year experience will be a real struggle.

          The U14 Crossfire/THUSC ECNL team will likely be stronger simply due to the fact that THUSC was clearly the better of these 3 programs. The question here is will those kids who don't make it stick around to play on their regular club teams?

          It appears from their websites that only the ECNL teams will be combined of Crossfire/THUSC players. But, those kids who don't make ECNL will go back to their respective club teams, which will be significantly weakened by the loss of the ECNL girls. Is this correct?

          If this is the case, will those kids who are leftover from Crossfire & THUSC then going to stick around for teams that are nowhere near as strong as before?
          The U14's at FCP may indeed struggle if the play ups 'stay up', no one outside the club try out and they don't pull the better U12's up. Although, it would appear they were not 'blown out' in the fall and were relatively competitive. They appear to have been playing better this spring (easier OPL league now) and state cup. Even so, without some new blood they will have a hard time.

          However, the other age groups for both of the ENCL clubs look somewhat solid, then if there are additional girls tying out, should be fine. Even if an age group at one or the other ENCL clubs struggles, they are still in ENCL. The idea is to give girls the opportunity to play against the best in the nation. On bad teams the really good players just stand out more, which is the other reason to play ENCL.

          The question is how many top players from other clubs will want to stay playing in the split leagues or want to play ENCL? Interesting times ahead.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            The U14's at FCP may indeed struggle if the play ups 'stay up', no one outside the club try out and they don't pull the better U12's up. Although, it would appear they were not 'blown out' in the fall and were relatively competitive. They appear to have been playing better this spring (easier OPL league now) and state cup. Even so, without some new blood they will have a hard time.

            However, the other age groups for both of the ENCL clubs look somewhat solid, then if there are additional girls tying out, should be fine. Even if an age group at one or the other ENCL clubs struggles, they are still in ENCL. The idea is to give girls the opportunity to play against the best in the nation. On bad teams the really good players just stand out more, which is the other reason to play ENCL.

            The question is how many top players from other clubs will want to stay playing in the split leagues or want to play ENCL? Interesting times ahead.
            It is one thing to be "somewhat solid" in OPL/OYS. It is quite a different thing to be competitive in the ECNL. Other than an Onyx, which would be a decent ECNL team right now, all of these teams are going to have to step up their game considerably if they want to be competitive in ECNL. And it is very questionable that Oregon has enough talent to support two competitive teams in most age groups.

            Finally, it will be very difficult for a good player to stand out on a bad team. With the exception, perhaps, of a good goalkeeper. Bad teams don't maintain possession of the ball very well. Hard to stand out when you spend most of the game chasing the ball.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              The U14's at FCP may indeed struggle if the play ups 'stay up', no one outside the club try out and they don't pull the better U12's up. Although, it would appear they were not 'blown out' in the fall and were relatively competitive. They appear to have been playing better this spring (easier OPL league now) and state cup. Even so, without some new blood they will have a hard time.

              However, the other age groups for both of the ENCL clubs look somewhat solid, then if there are additional girls tying out, should be fine. Even if an age group at one or the other ENCL clubs struggles, they are still in ENCL. The idea is to give girls the opportunity to play against the best in the nation. On bad teams the really good players just stand out more, which is the other reason to play ENCL.

              The question is how many top players from other clubs will want to stay playing in the split leagues or want to play ENCL? Interesting times ahead.
              If you think playups are going to get weak age groups at FC will get them through, they are going to fail.

              Maybe FC will charge every girl in their pool 10k!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                It is one thing to be "somewhat solid" in OPL/OYS. It is quite a different thing to be competitive in the ECNL. Other than an Onyx, which would be a decent ECNL team right now, all of these teams are going to have to step up their game considerably if they want to be competitive in ECNL. And it is very questionable that Oregon has enough talent to support two competitive teams in most age groups.

                Finally, it will be very difficult for a good player to stand out on a bad team. With the exception, perhaps, of a good goalkeeper. Bad teams don't maintain possession of the ball very well. Hard to stand out when you spend most of the game chasing the ball.
                Understand the level of play. Onyx will be a good ECNL team. I am no fan but that is the reality and their results prove this over the past year. Now, who is the next closest competition to them? This is an example of why two ECNL cubs will struggle.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  If you think playups are going to get weak age groups at FC will get them through, they are going to fail.

                  Maybe FC will charge every girl in their pool 10k!
                  Current 00's that are playing on the '99 team will be coming back to '00 ECNL team. They wouldn't have any place to play in the fall anyways if they didn't drop back. Those girls plus 4 or 5 that are new to the club and the team will compete just fine in the Pacific division, certainly more so than the Thorns Academy '99 team.

                  FC's '99 ECNL team will be strong, especially with the addition of 2 or 3 of the girls that are currently playing as discovery players at WPFC and Xfire WA. Pretty sure there is 1 girl from Camas and 1 from Eugene at WPFC, and 1 from Vancouver at Xfire WA.

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                    #10
                    So what are the schedules and costs? Will there be an info meeting before tryouts?
                    Why will there be 2 ecnl clubs? Will there be financial aid? Who is paying for the travel?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Current 00's that are playing on the '99 team will be coming back to '00 ECNL team. They wouldn't have any place to play in the fall anyways if they didn't drop back. Those girls plus 4 or 5 that are new to the club and the team will compete just fine in the Pacific division, certainly more so than the Thorns Academy '99 team.

                      FC's '99 ECNL team will be strong, especially with the addition of 2 or 3 of the girls that are currently playing as discovery players at WPFC and Xfire WA. Pretty sure there is 1 girl from Camas and 1 from Eugene at WPFC, and 1 from Vancouver at Xfire WA.
                      Maybe so. Though, it is just as likely that the Discovery Players at the '99 age group could go to Crossfire/THUSC.

                      I am a proponent for ECNL, but many people underestimate the depth of talent required.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Maybe so. Though, it is just as likely that the Discovery Players at the '99 age group could go to Crossfire/THUSC.

                        I am a proponent for ECNL, but many people underestimate the depth of talent required.
                        Pretty sure one was headed to FC even before the announcement. The other, we'll see...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          So what are the schedules and costs? Will there be an info meeting before tryouts?
                          Why will there be 2 ecnl clubs? Will there be financial aid? Who is paying for the travel?
                          On ECNL website, find a NW club from last season and look at their schedule. That'll give you an idea for any age group you need. ECNL won't answer why 2 clubs, but surely a travel partner was necessary. How much financial aid? Unlikely. You are paying for travel, if on travel roster.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            On ECNL website, find a NW club from last season and look at their schedule. That'll give you an idea for any age group you need. ECNL won't answer why 2 clubs, but surely a travel partner was necessary. How much financial aid? Unlikely. You are paying for travel, if on travel roster.
                            Thanks for the info, will send some emails.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Current 00's that are playing on the '99 team will be coming back to '00 ECNL team. They wouldn't have any place to play in the fall anyways if they didn't drop back. Those girls plus 4 or 5 that are new to the club and the team will compete just fine in the Pacific division, certainly more so than the Thorns Academy '99 team.

                              FC's '99 ECNL team will be strong, especially with the addition of 2 or 3 of the girls that are currently playing as discovery players at WPFC and Xfire WA. Pretty sure there is 1 girl from Camas and 1 from Eugene at WPFC, and 1 from Vancouver at Xfire WA.

                              There are also some thoughts that a couple of the THUSC girls will choose to come to FC rather then join with LO - several reasons that makes sense - logistics, better opportunity to make the ECNL Pool and long term a better club.

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