DOC Compensation!

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Speak the truth who ever you are!

Not when their wage is coming out of your pocket, and you aren't happy with the result. We are collectively in the spot we are in because no one holds these docs accountable to any kind of performance expectation. When was the last time your board did a salary review and performance appraisal for your DoC(s)? Any good organization does this. How about yours?

AMEN!!!

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Statue quo!!

If you aren't happy with the results than you should go on some where else or you should join the board.

What is the "we" crap. "You" are in a spot where you are unhappy and so you are carrying on your complaint here. Are you hoping your board will read this post and fix everything for you.

I work for Intel. I don't have much inputs into our CEO's performance appraisal or salary appraisal.

Very true but you should hear all of the complaints from other parents. Someone OR our paying parents need to hold these guys accountable. It's not a good enough standard and some of those coaches are not teaching to the best of their ability. Average at best and then blame the kids that they do not spend enough time on the ball. But the coaches only practice shooting games at training. Then complain that these kids have no skill!

My question to the coaches is how often do you spend teaching basic fundamentals?

How much of your practice plan is built around team flaws or things they need to work on?

Do you write your practice plan out for each team you coach? Not just one plan for all of your teams? Hopefully each of your teams have different issues.

Can you teach all facets of the game? Possession/ball skills/defensive work-individual and team/passing and trapping/dribbling/overlapping runs/ thru balls/ pressure cover balance/spacing/ speed of play/give and go's/pressing as a team/defensive 3rd/middle third/ final 3rd/finishing............ It's a lot to cover if you want a better product. How many coaches focus on all of this? Or better yet have the patience to do so or know how? Not many including DOCS

How many coaches work on let's just shoot today? Or every practice is let's just scrimmage? NOT MUCH PLANNING OR THOUGHT GOES INTO THIS!

Could you imagine if our school teachers did this to our kids. We would ask for our teachers jobs!!!!

Are you going to take the time or have the patience to fix and work backwards if your team struggles in a certain area?

Are you concerned with winning early or development and a better product in the end? It's a longer process but a better end product!

Can you get the best out of all of your players? Are you a good motivator?

Just remember you are all TEACHERS of the game and if your kids were failing and the parents are complaining its time to take a long hard look at yourself and ask the question am I doing everything I can to be the best coach/teacher of the game. Or am I doing this for the money?

Parents can tell if you are giving your best to their kids and SO CAN THE KIDS! Not sitting there drinking your coffee and talking with other coaches for the majority of the training session about God knows what!

Parents are smarter than they used to be, with more parents that have played the game than ever you can't get away with status quo anymore. We are watching and will not bite our tongues anymore!

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Very true but you should hear all of the complaints from other parents. Someone OR our paying parents need to hold these guys accountable. It's not a good enough standard and some of those coaches are not teaching to the best of their ability. Average at best and then blame the kids that they do not spend enough time on the ball. But the coaches only practice shooting games at training. Then complain that these kids have no skill!

My question to the coaches is how often do you spend teaching basic fundamentals?

How much of your practice plan is built around team flaws or things they need to work on?

Do you write your practice plan out for each team you coach? Not just one plan for all of your teams? Hopefully each of your teams have different issues.

Can you teach all facets of the game? Possession/ball skills/defensive work-individual and team/passing and trapping/dribbling/overlapping runs/ thru balls/ pressure cover balance/spacing/ speed of play/give and go's/pressing as a team/defensive 3rd/middle third/ final 3rd/finishing............ It's a lot to cover if you want a better product. How many coaches focus on all of this? Or better yet have the patience to do so or know how? Not many including DOCS

How many coaches work on let's just shoot today? Or every practice is let's just scrimmage? NOT MUCH PLANNING OR THOUGHT GOES INTO THIS!

Could you imagine if our school teachers did this to our kids. We would ask for our teachers jobs!!!!

Are you going to take the time or have the patience to fix and work backwards if your team struggles in a certain area?

Are you concerned with winning early or development and a better product in the end? It's a longer process but a better end product!

Can you get the best out of all of your players? Are you a good motivator?

Just remember you are all TEACHERS of the game and if your kids were failing and the parents are complaining its time to take a long hard look at yourself and ask the question am I doing everything I can to be the best coach/teacher of the game. Or am I doing this for the money?

Parents can tell if you are giving your best to their kids and SO CAN THE KIDS! Not sitting there drinking your coffee and talking with other coaches for the majority of the training session about God knows what!

Parents are smarter than they used to be, with more parents that have played the game than ever you can't get away with status quo anymore. We are watching and will not bite our tongues anymore!

Hey, Mr.Grumpy Pants! Sounds like you need to talk with your kid's coach already. Or, change clubs. Or, take a sedative.

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Very true but you should hear all of the complaints from other parents. Someone OR our paying parents need to hold these guys accountable. It's not a good enough standard and some of those coaches are not teaching to the best of their ability. Average at best and then blame the kids that they do not spend enough time on the ball. But the coaches only practice shooting games at training. Then complain that these kids have no skill!

My question to the coaches is how often do you spend teaching basic fundamentals?

How much of your practice plan is built around team flaws or things they need to work on?

Do you write your practice plan out for each team you coach? Not just one plan for all of your teams? Hopefully each of your teams have different issues.

Can you teach all facets of the game? Possession/ball skills/defensive work-individual and team/passing and trapping/dribbling/overlapping runs/ thru balls/ pressure cover balance/spacing/ speed of play/give and go's/pressing as a team/defensive 3rd/middle third/ final 3rd/finishing............ It's a lot to cover if you want a better product. How many coaches focus on all of this? Or better yet have the patience to do so or know how? Not many including DOCS

How many coaches work on let's just shoot today? Or every practice is let's just scrimmage? NOT MUCH PLANNING OR THOUGHT GOES INTO THIS!

Could you imagine if our school teachers did this to our kids. We would ask for our teachers jobs!!!!

Are you going to take the time or have the patience to fix and work backwards if your team struggles in a certain area?

Are you concerned with winning early or development and a better product in the end? It's a longer process but a better end product!

Can you get the best out of all of your players? Are you a good motivator?

Just remember you are all TEACHERS of the game and if your kids were failing and the parents are complaining its time to take a long hard look at yourself and ask the question am I doing everything I can to be the best coach/teacher of the game. Or am I doing this for the money?

Parents can tell if you are giving your best to their kids and SO CAN THE KIDS! Not sitting there drinking your coffee and talking with other coaches for the majority of the training session about God knows what!

Parents are smarter than they used to be, with more parents that have played the game than ever you can't get away with status quo anymore. We are watching and will not bite our tongues anymore!

Agree wholeheartedly. Can't speak for all of the clubs, but our team is coached by a DOC of a large club and the coaching is weak, half-hearted, and infantile, and the DOC doesn't even know the difference, so it's nearly impossible to communicate anything. He simply tries to hook himself up with good teams to enhance his reputation but doesn't really bring any quality coaching to the table. The problem is that at best 10% of the parents understand this and the rest either don't care or don't know the difference.

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Very true but you should hear all of the complaints from other parents. Someone OR our paying parents need to hold these guys accountable. It's not a good enough standard and some of those coaches are not teaching to the best of their ability. Average at best and then blame the kids that they do not spend enough time on the ball. But the coaches only practice shooting games at training. Then complain that these kids have no skill!

My question to the coaches is how often do you spend teaching basic fundamentals?

How much of your practice plan is built around team flaws or things they need to work on?

Do you write your practice plan out for each team you coach? Not just one plan for all of your teams? Hopefully each of your teams have different issues.

Can you teach all facets of the game? Possession/ball skills/defensive work-individual and team/passing and trapping/dribbling/overlapping runs/ thru balls/ pressure cover balance/spacing/ speed of play/give and go's/pressing as a team/defensive 3rd/middle third/ final 3rd/finishing............ It's a lot to cover if you want a better product. How many coaches focus on all of this? Or better yet have the patience to do so or know how? Not many including DOCS

How many coaches work on let's just shoot today? Or every practice is let's just scrimmage? NOT MUCH PLANNING OR THOUGHT GOES INTO THIS!

Could you imagine if our school teachers did this to our kids. We would ask for our teachers jobs!!!!

Are you going to take the time or have the patience to fix and work backwards if your team struggles in a certain area?

Are you concerned with winning early or development and a better product in the end? It's a longer process but a better end product!

Can you get the best out of all of your players? Are you a good motivator?

Just remember you are all TEACHERS of the game and if your kids were failing and the parents are complaining its time to take a long hard look at yourself and ask the question am I doing everything I can to be the best coach/teacher of the game. Or am I doing this for the money?

Parents can tell if you are giving your best to their kids and SO CAN THE KIDS! Not sitting there drinking your coffee and talking with other coaches for the majority of the training session about God knows what!

Parents are smarter than they used to be, with more parents that have played the game than ever you can't get away with status quo anymore. We are watching and will not bite our tongues anymore!

Vote with your pocket book. You don't think you are getting your moneys worth. Move your kid to where you think you are.

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Hey, Mr.Grumpy Pants! Sounds like you need to talk with your kid's coach already. Or, change clubs. Or, take a sedative.

And you must be ok with AVERAGE! That is the problem with everything you people you can't tell the difference. As long as you can tell the coach how good your daughter is and he can sit there and say nice things about her you are happy! There is soooooooooooooooooooo much to work on and not enough coaches willing to put the time and effort in to raise the level of play!

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And you must be ok with AVERAGE! That is the problem with everything you people you can't tell the difference. As long as you can tell the coach how good your daughter is and he can sit there and say nice things about her you are happy! There is soooooooooooooooooooo much to work on and not enough coaches willing to put the time and effort in to raise the level of play!

Why don't we address the issue of poor pay for team coaches in OR? If you knew what most make you would feel less inclined to expect so much of them. The big club DOC's are fair game as they get paid very well. However you cannot cell expect the earth from team coaches who aren't paid to go the extra mile so to speak. Many do a great job all things considered.

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Why don't we address the issue of poor pay for team coaches in OR? If you knew what most make you would feel less inclined to expect so much of them. The big club DOC's are fair game as they get paid very well. However you cannot cell expect the earth from team coaches who aren't paid to go the extra mile so to speak. Many do a great job all things considered.

Very true! Another thing to consider is how many hours do the DOC's put in to earn their pay? Around the lake they take multiple days off each week!

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Very true but you should hear all of the complaints from other parents. Someone OR our paying parents need to hold these guys accountable. It's not a good enough standard and some of those coaches are not teaching to the best of their ability. Average at best and then blame the kids that they do not spend enough time on the ball. But the coaches only practice shooting games at training. Then complain that these kids have no skill!

My question to the coaches is how often do you spend teaching basic fundamentals?

How much of your practice plan is built around team flaws or things they need to work on?

Do you write your practice plan out for each team you coach? Not just one plan for all of your teams? Hopefully each of your teams have different issues.

Can you teach all facets of the game? Possession/ball skills/defensive work-individual and team/passing and trapping/dribbling/overlapping runs/ thru balls/ pressure cover balance/spacing/ speed of play/give and go's/pressing as a team/defensive 3rd/middle third/ final 3rd/finishing............ It's a lot to cover if you want a better product. How many coaches focus on all of this? Or better yet have the patience to do so or know how? Not many including DOCS

How many coaches work on let's just shoot today? Or every practice is let's just scrimmage? NOT MUCH PLANNING OR THOUGHT GOES INTO THIS!

Could you imagine if our school teachers did this to our kids. We would ask for our teachers jobs!!!!

Are you going to take the time or have the patience to fix and work backwards if your team struggles in a certain area?

Are you concerned with winning early or development and a better product in the end? It's a longer process but a better end product!

Can you get the best out of all of your players? Are you a good motivator?

Just remember you are all TEACHERS of the game and if your kids were failing and the parents are complaining its time to take a long hard look at yourself and ask the question am I doing everything I can to be the best coach/teacher of the game. Or am I doing this for the money?

Parents can tell if you are giving your best to their kids and SO CAN THE KIDS! Not sitting there drinking your coffee and talking with other coaches for the majority of the training session about God knows what!

Parents are smarter than they used to be, with more parents that have played the game than ever you can't get away with status quo anymore. We are watching and will not bite our tongues anymore!

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Totally agree

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Very true but you should hear all of the complaints from other parents. Someone OR our paying parents need to hold these guys accountable. It's not a good enough standard and some of those coaches are not teaching to the best of their ability. Average at best and then blame the kids that they do not spend enough time on the ball. But the coaches only practice shooting games at training. Then complain that these kids have no skill!

My question to the coaches is how often do you spend teaching basic fundamentals?

How much of your practice plan is built around team flaws or things they need to work on?

Do you write your practice plan out for each team you coach? Not just one plan for all of your teams? Hopefully each of your teams have different issues.

Can you teach all facets of the game? Possession/ball skills/defensive work-individual and team/passing and trapping/dribbling/overlapping runs/ thru balls/ pressure cover balance/spacing/ speed of play/give and go's/pressing as a team/defensive 3rd/middle third/ final 3rd/finishing............ It's a lot to cover if you want a better product. How many coaches focus on all of this? Or better yet have the patience to do so or know how? Not many including DOCS

How many coaches work on let's just shoot today? Or every practice is let's just scrimmage? NOT MUCH PLANNING OR THOUGHT GOES INTO THIS!

Could you imagine if our school teachers did this to our kids. We would ask for our teachers jobs!!!!

Are you going to take the time or have the patience to fix and work backwards if your team struggles in a certain area?

Are you concerned with winning early or development and a better product in the end? It's a longer process but a better end product!

Can you get the best out of all of your players? Are you a good motivator?

Just remember you are all TEACHERS of the game and if your kids were failing and the parents are complaining its time to take a long hard look at yourself and ask the question am I doing everything I can to be the best coach/teacher of the game. Or am I doing this for the money?

Parents can tell if you are giving your best to their kids and SO CAN THE KIDS! Not sitting there drinking your coffee and talking with other coaches for the majority of the training session about God knows what!

Parents are smarter than they used to be, with more parents that have played the game than ever you can't get away with status quo anymore. We are watching and will not bite our tongues anymore!

Our DOC coach tells us we need to practice outside of practice when we lose but his practices are a waste of time. He gets paid a lot of money to do this I guess.

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In season no days off

Very true! Another thing to consider is how many hours do the DOC's put in to earn their pay? Around the lake they take multiple days off each week!

If your DOC has more than one day off during league play you have a problem. Days off are what the off season is for!

But hey we here in PDX have very little understanding what a quality coaching program is or what should be incorporated beyond kicking the ball.

Lastly, we don't pay our regular coaches enough. the are barely making gas and car payments! In other major cities the better clubs pay double and some times triple what we pay so you know what they say about getting what you pay for!

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Yeah! Portland only kicks the ball. Nothing else. Just kick ball. Boot ball is all we get. It's outrageous. We should fire all the coaches and docs. Parents can fill in for gas money and pitchers of beer.

We need a change!!!!

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I see our new DOC at least a couple times a week out checking on trainings and games. It's been kind of weird, really, to see a DOC so active. I think it helps the coaches step up when they know the boss cares about what they're doing and will be around to see the quality of work.

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I see our new DOC at least a couple times a week out checking on trainings and games. It's been kind of weird, really, to see a DOC so active. I think it helps the coaches step up when they know the boss cares about what they're doing and will be around to see the quality of work.

Yes....our DOC's are out all the time....age groups train at same time and location and a DOC is always around....our coaches are required to squad train at least once per week

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crazy

Who ever doesn't think their pay is out of alignment with what they do is crazy. Teachers make $50,000 and many of them have their masters and we trust our kids future with them? Nurse's make less and save yours or loved ones lives? And why is there so many problems with clubs if these people are earning that much, they should be on top of these clubs. But then NFL players make $$$$$$ for what? The world has strange priorities.