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    Cuts at NYCFC academy

    Heard about a lot of cuts at nycfc academy. Anybody know what clubs these players might end up at?

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    A lot of them at Barca Pro Academy

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      A lot of them at Barca Pro Academy
      What ages are you referring to?

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        #4
        NYSC getting some boys returning

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          Heard about a lot of cuts at nycfc academy. Anybody know what clubs these players might end up at?
          Nice that they waited until every other team was largely settled to maximize the amount the screw over the boys.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Nice that they waited until every other team was largely settled to maximize the amount the screw over the boys.
            If your kid wasn't playing much you should have already been looking. At that level your spot is always at risk. unless you're a consistent starter

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              #7
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              If your kid wasn't playing much you should have already been looking. At that level your spot is always at risk. unless you're a consistent starter
              But looking and accepting an offer are two different things. Even if you look around, if they don't cut you until July, they're putting you in the unpleasant position of accepting an offer with another team before you know if you're cut, and then screwing over the 2nd team if you aren't.

              Spring tryouts should be run like fraternity rush or medical residency applications -- all the tryouts at the same time, all the decisions given to the kids on the same day and a uniform date to accept or decline.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                But looking and accepting an offer are two different things. Even if you look around, if they don't cut you until July, they're putting you in the unpleasant position of accepting an offer with another team before you know if you're cut, and then screwing over the 2nd team if you aren't.

                Spring tryouts should be run like fraternity rush or medical residency applications -- all the tryouts at the same time, all the decisions given to the kids on the same day and a uniform date to accept or decline.
                But that isn't how it works. Very few clubs do cattle call tryouts. They're inefficient and not a good way to assess talent. So clubs invite players they might want to practices well before tryouts, sometimes they scout them. If your kid is on the bottom third of any roster you should be having a frank discussion with the coach about the future. Insist on knowing if your kid is in, out or on the fence. Always have a backup plan and go to practices at other clubs. We learned that the hard way with the oldest.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  But looking and accepting an offer are two different things. Even if you look around, if they don't cut you until July, they're putting you in the unpleasant position of accepting an offer with another team before you know if you're cut, and then screwing over the 2nd team if you aren't.

                  Spring tryouts should be run like fraternity rush or medical residency applications -- all the tryouts at the same time, all the decisions given to the kids on the same day and a uniform date to accept or decline.
                  Most players were told if they are staying or leaving in early to mid June.. I think it was the 2nd week of June when everyone found out.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    But that isn't how it works. Very few clubs do cattle call tryouts. They're inefficient and not a good way to assess talent. So clubs invite players they might want to practices well before tryouts, sometimes they scout them. If your kid is on the bottom third of any roster you should be having a frank discussion with the coach about the future. Insist on knowing if your kid is in, out or on the fence. Always have a backup plan and go to practices at other clubs. We learned that the hard way with the oldest.
                    That's fair -- I just see so many kids at that level whose parents don't know the first thing about how all this work. And that's not unreasonable. The clubs could do better for the boys.

                    My son played at an Academy club on the top team at U11 and, very fortunately for us, they let us know in early May that he wasn't going to be on the Academy team. We knew at that point anyway, but the early notice was appreciated, although it made the rest of the Spring season a bit of a drag...

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      That's fair -- I just see so many kids at that level whose parents don't know the first thing about how all this work. And that's not unreasonable. The clubs could do better for the boys.

                      My son played at an Academy club on the top team at U11 and, very fortunately for us, they let us know in early May that he wasn't going to be on the Academy team. We knew at that point anyway, but the early notice was appreciated, although it made the rest of the Spring season a bit of a drag...
                      No many don't know how it works if it's their first kid in the system at the higher levels. There's always churn at clubs but more so in top DA because clubs are always looking for the best talent they can find and can develop. The system is also a funnel, intentionally. Few will make it to the top. Parents are not always honest with themselves about their kids abilities. They also naively think clubs will be loyal to their players. It's a nice idea but just isn't there at the club level. Some coaches care but they are rare gems. You were lucky to know well enough in advance to find options and also lessen the blow to your son. Getting cut sucks.

                      If by early spring your player isn't playing much 1) initiate a conversation with the coach about the player's strengths/weaknesses and future 2) start exploring other options before the actual tryout season starts 3) even if he can stay evaluate the tradeoffs of PT vs training. They can't practice what they're taught if they're not on the field a good amount. Most importantly, players want to PLAY! Will he or she stay motivated if they're not playing?

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                        #12
                        it’s amazingly sad how NYCFC discriminates against players who are choosing to attend college, instead of the very slim chance of becoming a successful pro. I know that is the case, but in all honesty, it’s just business. Even more sad, almost all of the boys that think they are headed to Europe, will have no spot, and no education in 4-6 years. Statiscally, the odds of a very successful pro career are grim...

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          it’s amazingly sad how NYCFC discriminates against players who are choosing to attend college, instead of the very slim chance of becoming a successful pro. I know that is the case, but in all honesty, it’s just business. Even more sad, almost all of the boys that think they are headed to Europe, will have no spot, and no education in 4-6 years. Statiscally, the odds of a very successful pro career are grim...
                          Ask long as they offer a free program, they can do what they want. If college is your objective, go to a pay for play Academy.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Ask long as they offer a free program, they can do what they want. If college is your objective, go to a pay for play Academy.
                            It sounds like you are defending them, if so, you kid must be one of the fools that think Manchester City are scouting your kid, wake-up, and get your kid an education, no future in pro soccer for 99.9% of them...

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              it’s amazingly sad how NYCFC discriminates against players who are choosing to attend college, instead of the very slim chance of becoming a successful pro. I know that is the case, but in all honesty, it’s just business. Even more sad, almost all of the boys that think they are headed to Europe, will have no spot, and no education in 4-6 years. Statiscally, the odds of a very successful pro career are grim...
                              They're in the business of developing professionals. NYCFC does not care about developing college players. Also, they're spending a lot of money to develop those players so yes they want to see something for their investment.

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