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So just how far behind is TA going to let themselves get before they do something?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Posthttps://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/...-bearing-fruit
So just how far behind is TA going to let themselves get before they do something?
1) Population and other issues that neither organization has any control over?
2) The Sounders are more competent than the Timbers at running an academy?
3) The local youth soccer scene in Washington, particularly Seattle is stronger (less fragmented, better clubs) than Oregon?
4) Some combination of all?
My guess is 4. Seattle is nearly twice as big as Portland. OTOH, places like Salt Lake City and Las Vegas are smaller than Portland (or nearly the same size) but more productive of soccer talent. Seattle does seem to take things more seriously than the Timbers do, who seem to be investing the minimum they can get away with in their academy. And WYSA essentially enforces a much stronger pyramid that channels elite talent into a handful of clubs (those in RCL, mainly); thus talent is far less diluted. The Seattle metro area, again twice as big as Portland, has 8 DA clubs whereas we have 6, and one of Seattle's DA clubs is the Timbers! Given #1 and #3, it's not entirely surprising that the Timbers may well have concluded that it ain't worth it, though I think the Timbers could do more to improve things--and the power play they pulled after the OPL failed certainly poisoned the well.
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I'll buy #4, but take the time to go through that article and compare what Seattle has done with what Timbers have done. "The Sounders are more competent than the Timbers at running an academy" looks to be an understatement even after you consider Seattle's built in advantages.
Does Seattle have more players? Yep. Is the scale/quality of Timbers' investment equivalent to the Sounders' once you adjust for population? Not even close.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Posthttps://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/...-bearing-fruit
So just how far behind is TA going to let themselves get before they do something?
They would literally need to start over, hire new staff and spend $2 million a year to get it right.
Oh, and have a quality facility for players to grow and develop.
These things will never happen with the current model.
Current model is to line MP’s pockets and keep the Timbers in the black. Gavin does this and he has a job forever.
Just keep buying players.
If you really think about it that model works. They are consistently top five each year. Too bad our country has a league and laws that don’t allow for player development that rewards clubs financially for producing players.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHere's an interesting question: The Sounders have generally had a more successful academy program than the Timbers. Is this because?
1) Population and other issues that neither organization has any control over?
2) The Sounders are more competent than the Timbers at running an academy?
3) The local youth soccer scene in Washington, particularly Seattle is stronger (less fragmented, better clubs) than Oregon?
4) Some combination of all?
My guess is 4. Seattle is nearly twice as big as Portland. OTOH, places like Salt Lake City and Las Vegas are smaller than Portland (or nearly the same size) but more productive of soccer talent. Seattle does seem to take things more seriously than the Timbers do, who seem to be investing the minimum they can get away with in their academy. And WYSA essentially enforces a much stronger pyramid that channels elite talent into a handful of clubs (those in RCL, mainly); thus talent is far less diluted. The Seattle metro area, again twice as big as Portland, has 8 DA clubs whereas we have 6, and one of Seattle's DA clubs is the Timbers! Given #1 and #3, it's not entirely surprising that the Timbers may well have concluded that it ain't worth it, though I think the Timbers could do more to improve things--and the power play they pulled after the OPL failed certainly poisoned the well.
We have enough players in our metro area to field a pro team. We just don’t train them correctly
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